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DMO's agent "Rockets not doing enough to re sign him"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by motleydeflep6, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. craguin

    craguin Member

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    Not sure why Woj phrased it as "midnight expiration" (makes it sound like the QO deadline is this evening) when it was reported as 11:59 PM eastern time on October 1st last year for Tristan Thompson:

    [CBS Sports] "the deadline for him to accept that was 11:59 p.m. ET on Thursday, and he didn't."
     
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    ^^^^
    Yeah, it might not expire tonight. I posted that earlier today. In fact, it might not expire on a weekend. Might be the first biz day after Oct 1st, like how player options work on Oct 31st. If it falls on a weekend, then it expires the next biz day.

    Here's the exact wording from the CBA. It clearly says *after October 1st*

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    A player who receives a Qualifying Offer must be given until the October 1 following its issuance to accept it.Notwithstanding the preceding sentence, a Qualifying Offer may be withdrawn by the Team at any time through the July 23 following its issuance. If the Qualifying Offer is not withdrawn on or before July 23, it may be withdrawn thereafter but only if the player agrees in writing to the withdrawal. If a Qualifying Offer is withdrawn, the player shall immediately become an Unrestricted Free Agent. If a Qualifying Offer is withdrawn on or after July 24, the Team also shall be deemed to have renounced the player in accordance with Article VII, Section 4(g). A player may not accept a Qualifying Offer after the October 1 following the issuance thereof, unless the Team, prior to October 1,extends the date by which the player may accept the Qualifying Offer.
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    Larry Coon seems to contradict himself in the CBA Faq though. Maybe this is confusing Woj?

    First he says this:
    "A qualifying offer automatically expires on October 1, unless it is extended by the team (which is rarely done)."

    But later this:
    "October 1 Last day for a restricted free agent to accept a Qualifying Offer (unless it is extended -- see question number 44)"
     
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  3. heypartner

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    fwiw: At this point, Morey cannot withdraw the QO without DMo's consent. See the rule I posted above. It was only before July 23rd where he could do it unilaterally.
     
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    I think that I had read somewhere before that the delaying for biz days doesn't count for QOs.
     
  5. craguin

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    Larry did a Q&A last year; here's what he wrote with respect to Tristan Thompson allowing his QO to expire:
     
  6. CCity Zero

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    Haha, maybe his value before the Detroit debacle.. If he was a ufa right now he'd struggle like TJones to get a deal more than the QO. No one lined up to sign this super RFA. now if this year his back is better and be plays meaningful minutes maybe he could get in on one of these stupid deals. But atm no way in hell.
     
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    Haha, see... You can just repost page 19 of so... It's a never-ending cycle. It's very obvious DMo has no market value above QO atm. :)
     
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    At this point, I'm not sure what the hell DMo is holding out for. DM holds the cards and is likely not to budge on whatever offer he's negotiated besides the QO (if there really is one). It doesn't seem like DMo has any wiggle room, even if he misses this season.
     
  9. Smacktle

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    Really want Dmo to stay. So tired of getting new players every year. Be nice to have some consistency. If Dmo breaks out, would like to see it happen on the Rockets. Tired of Morey shuffling the deck every 2 years.
     
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    I think any fear of D-Mo being unhappy or chasing numbers would end up being largely unfounded. MDA has already proclaimed him to be part of his initial 8 man rotation, and I'd suspect that with his ball movement skills he will end up getting about all the minutes he can handle.
     
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    All the minutes his back can handle... :)
     
  12. Yaosthirdleg

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    Five years and 100 million cash. Get it done, guys. We need this man. He is a transcendent talent with major upside. And he has shown to be highly durable. I mean if they get Motiejunas signed and trade for Rubio then we will be in business, fellas.
     
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    Rubio. LOL
    We need another guard that can catch and shoot opposite James.
    I'm pretty sure Rubio can catch, but . . . no thanks
     
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    The reason I'm okay with athletes and entertainers making so much more money than, say, teachers and firemen (who deserve a massive raise) is that they are paid what the market bears. They bring in the money so they certainly have a right to a goodly chunk of it.

    D-Mo hasn't done that. 4.4 million dollars is a lot of money to play a game for a guy that's only had one extraordinary month in two years. But that's not the reason he should be happy to sign. He should be happy to sign because that is his official value as determined by the teams in the league.

    Offer sheets are the metric of value for a RFA and D-Mo has received zero of them. That means nobody wants to pay him more than 4.4 mil. By definition that's his official value and it's only necessarily that high to The Rockets. They're the only team that has shown a willingness to pay that much.

    He should sign this one year contract, show what he can do, and if he is worth more than 4.4 he will show that and get paid an even more absurdly large salary for playing a game next season. And at a level that is fair relative to what other players are making.

    But if nobody in the league will offer more than 4.4 million, that's his maximum value right now. It's in his power to get that way, way, way up on the court but he can't do it in the court of opinion. Opinions won't be changed about his value until he plays again.

    I said about 15 pages back (or maybe in another thread) that I thought he should get 5 million or so and be happy about it since no team had made an offer. Neither Morey nor the Rockets determined his value. If anything they set it a little high because no one has exceeded it. If someone wants to pay him more, they can. They've had a long time to do it and they haven't.

    That means 4.4 million is his max value in this league right now. What is BJ's argument for him being paid more? That he's worth it? He officially is not.
     
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    hopefully, although we went out of our way to start asik next to dwight and he still pouted all season
     
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    You will not be laughing when he is dragging some other team to a Finals victory. Can you imagine Motiejunas and Rubio on the court together? You thought Shaq/Kobe and Pippen/Jordan were dynamic duos? Just wait.
     
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    Yes he did. Both him and Asik wanted out.
     
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    BWHAHAHA dragging who to the finals. Especially over mega team Warriors and Spurs.

    Dmo is not that type of player.
     
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    Batman I agree with all of this.
     
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