This team will never win anything with Brock Osweiler at QB!

What I like most about Brock is his ability to lead. He looks to have the support of everyone in the huddle to this point which is half the battle. Combine that with the ability to know the offense, read the defense and get the team in the right play and that is massive.

 

He ran a 4.44 with a 42 inch vertical at combine. Those are unreal numbers. He needs to work on playing that fast though.

 

Did anyone ever see a replay of the coulda/wouldabeen TD that Strong missed against KC? I never got one on the TV, they showed the line and Brock and pretty much everything but the potential catch.

 

Yeah, that's what I meant. He plays slow

 

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Kansas City Chiefs 12 at Houston Texans 19
Vince Verhei: We got the whole Marcus Peters experience on the first drive of the game. He gave a 20-yard cushion to Will Fuller, and Fuller still blew by him for what should have been a long touchdown. Fuller bobbled the ball, and though he eventually reeled it in, he was tackled inside the 5. Then on third-and-goal, Peters jumps a short route to intercept the ball and take back the scoring chance he had given Houston in the first place.
Texans just don't respect Peters at all. They recover a fumble when the snap goes over Alex Smith's head, then score on the very next play when Peters attempts to tackle DeAndre Hopkins before the pass arrives. Hopkins wards him off, catches the ball, and goes into the end zone.
Early impressions of Brock Osweiler: He is very much a "throw the ball to the first read whether he's open or not" kind of guy.
Sterling Xie: Demetrius Harris gets your "how was that not a catch?" nomination of the week. Harris took about three full steps after a catch down the seam before fumbling, but the play was overturned to an incompletion upon review. The explanation was that he was going to the ground and didn't complete the catch, but he was only going to the ground because he was being tackled. Looked a little like the famous Dez non-catch, where he was stumbling forward after initially gaining possession.
And just like the Dez non-catch, it looked like a catch. If Harris had taken three consecutive steps in basketball, that would have been traveling. Can't we say that traveling in basketball equals possession in football?
Andrew Potter: Completely disagree with you on that play, Sterling. He was clearly stumbling and falling immediately on catching the ball, and was contacted by a defender as he was falling. That type of play has been an incomplete pass forever, and will remain so forever more. No doubt in my mind it was going to be overturned.
Vince Verhei: Texans lead 13-3 at halftime, and the real story has been Houston's total dominance on defense. Kansas City had four drives in the first quarter that gained 8 yards -- total, not apiece. Their only score came on a 53-yard field goal, which was set up by a 32-yard punt return. In between, the offense moved backwards 2 yards. Chiefs did get some plays in the second quarter, but their last two drives both ended in lost fumbles. These may be connected. Those big plays usually came after broken tackles. Looks like Houston is putting such an emphasis on taking the ball away that sometimes they're forgetting to wrap up.
One other note on Houston's first half. At one point they tried a reverse to Braxton Miller with Osweiler as a lead blocker. This is not as silly as it sounds -- Osweiler is 6-foot-8 and 235 pounds, and should have at least been able to stand in somebody's way. Instead he ran up to a linebacker, then backed away, and Miller was tackled for a 2-yard loss.
Texans were driving and getting big plays in the passing game, and it looked like they were finally going to get the score they needed to really put Kansas City away. Then Osweiler tried to hit Hopkins on a deep route. Peters was playing physical coverage again, but Hopkins seemed to have him boxed out. But Osweiler's pass sailed wide and bounced off Hopkins hand and into Peters', who added a nice return. Chiefs then run the old school option pitch to Charcandrick West for 21 yards before the drive stalls, and they get a field goal on the first play of the fourth quarter to pull within one score, 13-6.
Through three quarters, the Chiefs have three runs of 20 yards or more, but their longest completion has gained only 13 yards. Counting sacks, they have 48 yards on 26 passing plays. Yet they're in the game. I'd just keep running.
Scott Kacsmar: The Chiefs actually kicked three field goals in the fourth quarter when down by 10 points each time. I really could not criticize any of the three decisions to kick, but that just speaks to the failure of their offense in the red zone and a disappointing finish to this game. Good job by the Texans to keep building the lead with some key conversions. Will Fuller seems like a perfect fit for Osweiler, who is more gunslinger than he may have shown in Denver last year.
Rivers McCown: Went to this one.
I think the throws Osweiler had forced upon him by the play design were difficult. He does have some placement issues, but he and Fuller have created an offense that can actually create yards in a single-high safety world. They do it inefficiently, but they do it. It's a quantum leap from the last two years of quarterback play.
My biggest issue was the red zone play calling. I am curious if Houston just doesn't trust the offensive line at this point in power situations, or if it's about the two teams they have played so far. But this is a LOT of shotgun spread for an offense that doesn't have a player who wins in space. It's basically asking Osweiler to win on pure accuracy, which isn't exactly his best attribute. Of course, when you have J.J. Watt, Jadeveon Clowney, and Whitney Mercilus against the Chiefs offensive line, you can afford some cuteness I guess.
K.C.'s offensive game plan was bizarre to me. You could tell the Texans wanted to run their offense through Will Fuller. K.C. wanted to run first and foremost, but I thought they should have run the passing game through Travis Kelce. Houston had trouble matching him, mostly using A.J. Bouye or Kareem Jackson inside. Yet Kelce was off the field in a few passing situations altogether, and the Chiefs wanted to throw outside. I didn't get it.

 

Yeah, that's the worst post I've ever seen

 

Brock put some major heat on that pass, I don't think sure hands Hopkins would've caught that one.

 

Sorry Clutch this was meant for Buck

 

Like I said, I never really saw the "catch/no catch" he threw it so damn hard, and I never saw a replay either.

 

I don't blame strong for that drop (from the live play I saw).

My point was just that if it was Fuller the trolls would be crying "small hands"!!

Also it looked like someone ran the wrong route because there were to Texans wrs in the vicinity

 

Nobody else has mentioned it, but if you watch frame by frame, Peters tipped it out and away from Strong, right before it reached him.

 

They never showed a replay or mentioned that

 

You keep trying to call people "trolls" who mention it when Fuller's bad hands end up being a problem....but it's just valid criticism....so that makes you the troll for getting triggered by valid criticism and throwing a fit about it.

 

True...but I looked at it again since I had the game on my DVR. It appeared to me the balls trajectory changed slightly and Strong never touched it. That is why he turned towards the end zone and reached his arms out trying to locate the ball.

 

I think Osweiler has shown the capacity to literally every throw a quarterback should make. He tries to force the ball sometimes, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he settles down as the season goes along. We have an elite defense, our line will only get better when Brown comes back and Lamar Miller is exyrenely solid as well. We've had similar teams but have always been derailed by a quarterback who was too conservative. Bottom line: Osweiler will risk it to get the biscuit.

 

Braddock is currently talking about Brock being a one-read QB. His mind is predetermined before the snap.

Brock has basically locked into two targets (Nuk, Fuller) and everyone else is non-existent.

Of the 32 teams, Texans are 31st in yardage % between the top 2 receivers vs the rest, at ~73%.

First 2 games last season, Hoyer-Mallett posted 80 more passing yards with one less INT.


Breaking it down, Brock has more weapons, but many of last season's yards came during garbage. Also, pretty sure the oline was better last year as well.


Still, it's a nice start to the season overall and there's plenty potential.

 

I can show you plenty of examples from last year where Brock scanned the field and threw it to his next option.

Braddock is wrong A LOT!!

Osweiler typically throws to where the coverage is going to dictate a favorable matchup.

 

Not saying you're wrong..... have you seen enough examples this season?

 

Watch his highlight tape from WK 1 against the Bears.

He goes through reads about 50% of the time.

Brady and Peyton predetermine quite a bit as well. If you can read coverages it is quite common.

 

Highlights not available, but glad it happened since you said.