This team will never win anything with Brock Osweiler at QB!

You didn't fully read my post. I said he is an upgrade over what they've had in O'Brien tenure. I knew homers would take offense to my comment but I'm not sold YET. I do see more potential then I could see in O'Brien's first two years because there are more weapons it just hasn't come together yet. The offense will have to improve if they want to ultimately get to where they want to be as a team.

 

Nothing wrong with what you said. He's had a good game against a bad team and a bad game against a good team.

I think he has the physical tools, just has to put the mental part together.

 

I agree. Coaching will continue to be huge to shape Brock into the QB this team needs him to be to take them over the top.

 

He's about what I expected so far. Some good decisions some bad. Luckily he has a great defense and WRs to lean on. Too bad the O line is banged up better protection and stronger running game would really help him out.

 

Everything Clowney does is compared with Mack (and vice versa).
Everything Fuller does is compared with Doctson and Treadwell (and vice versa)
It used to be Hopkins vs Patterson, Sua Filo vs Carr/Bridgewater,
Now we're comparing Brock with Siemian? Geez! Do we have to compare every new Texan with a replacement?

 

Brock Osweiler played really well yesterday.

Will Fuller/Jalen prevented touchdowns. That was a touchdown to Hop.

I didn't like his first pick. Even then Brax ran an awful route.

Other then that, it all stems from chemistry issues or mental mistakes.

He throws dimes and is a championship quarterback by end of this season or next year.

18 million well spent.

 

The running game has been pretty lackluster for at least 6 out of 8 quarters thus far. Maybe 7.

Which is the o-line issues.

I mean it's been ok "smash mouth" type stuff, but in addition to Brock eliminating 1 mental mistake a game, the running game will need to get a little more sizzle if we want the offense to pop like it can.

 

I've been watching both teams.
Brock should have almost double those TD's and at least 1-2 less receptions
Siemian should have 1-2 more int, and they are coming on out routes that are getting picked with a chance of TDs.

I know we arent in a vacuum and you cant just say what if, but I still think Broncos would rather have Osweiler. And It was money we have so we should spend it on the one position every other team has except us (good teams)

 

Brock could have also had another interception last game to Marcus peters. So I think over season it balances itself out.

 

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What I like about Brock is that he looks the part. He looks and acts like a franchise QB. The issues we're seeing now I think/hope are due to an entirely new 1st team offense. These guys haven't gelled yet and it shows. Of course that sets the expectations that they need to gel and raise their game. All of them. Now compare to the D, that looks like a unit that is returning 10/11 starters. They are locked in and look great.

 

Game 1-
Fuller dropped TD
Hopkins dropped TD

Game 2
Fuller dropped TD-Bobble prevented walk in.
Strong dropped TD-Great hands guy...until well that happened.
Hopkins catch should have been a touchdown in my opinion.

Osweiler has been playing much better than the stats show. He has been borderline unlucky thus far.

 

This to me is the primary reason I can live with some of the bad decisions. You would get bad interceptions from Brian Hoyer, Mallett, TJ Yates, Weeden, anyone really. But you didn't have that balanced out by the big time plays as much because those guys didn't have the arm to take advantage of WRs like Hopkins or Fuller. I was thinking about that this morning, how seeing bad throws that end in picks by Brock don't infuriate me near as much as they did last year. I think it's kind of like Green Bay fans were with Favre. Sure he takes chances and screws up sometimes, but he makes up for it with those huge plays.

I just hope he can work on reducing those screw-ups over the course of the season. If he can do that he'll end up with incredible numbers.

 

This is true.

That said, there's a difference between the first pick (in the endzone), and the Hopkins pick. The Hopkins throw was just a bit too far outside, Hopkins might have slipped a tad, and Hopkins desire to one-hand it might have helped the defender intercept it. A tough throw, but a throw that is timing based, and anticipated to be tough.

The end zone throw... just can't happen. It just can't. The only reason you aren't completely infuriated is because its still a bit of a learning experience. because for some of the greats... yeah, they can and should make some throws like that - they just time it better, throw it better, or find someone else. Brock just doesn't know yet what his limitations are... and neither do we as fans. But it seems like he isn't going to create in a way Big Ben would, or Rodgers would, etc. Great escape of the pocket... tuck it and run, or throw it away.

So it's not completely infuriating. He'll look at the tape, and hopefully learn he could have extended the play longer and taken less risk. But if he's still doing that at the end of the season, then it's a problem.

 

I love this post! You're are so correct.

 

I like Oz but he also had some pretty inaccurate throws too, like quite a bit of under and overthrown passes. I still think he has a good chance of sticking around for his contract but he has accuracy issues as of this season.

 

There is a difference between accuracy issues and chemistry problems.

I am seeing chemistry problems.

His interceptions have been on back-shoulder throws.

That is a chemistry problem.

His throw to Braxton shouldn't have been thrown.

I don't think those are accuracy issues. More feel of game.

 

Agreed, the Braxton throw was a bad decision, the Nuk throw was Nuk running a bad route and not being where he was supposed to be. In a later drive, they ran the exact same play only Nuk ran the route properly and the ball was in the same spot for an easy reception and first down. In fact, the almost interception where Nuk made a great play to prevent the DB from catching it was another bad route by Nuk, he stumbled a bit and lost half a step on his route which led him to not being where he was supposed to be.

That means Nuk has been at least partially responsible for 2 of Osweiler's interceptions this season and almost responsible for another. I think given enough time, they'll work everything out and those kinds of things won't happen anymore.

 

I don't see accuracy issues, but I see forcing passes that aren't there

 

It's 2 games in and he's looked like the potential is there for very good things. He has confidence and patience. If he continues to improve from here, we got a f***ing bargain.

Once the running game gets going, things are going to look even better than they do right now.