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Hillary Clinton 2016: Stronger Together

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by JeffB, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. dandorotik

    dandorotik Member

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    Damn morons, Jesus, learn how...
     
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    To post an image the right way...
     
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    Whew- OK, so I'm reposting:

    You can hate on Clinton all you want- and you can make up every excuse in the book to say that she's playing the victim card. But if you've worked with as many executive women as I have, and you hear the bull**** they've had to put up with, you'd know she is dead-on:

    “I’m not Barack Obama. I’m not Bill Clinton. Both of them carry themselves with a naturalness that is very appealing to audiences. But I’m married to one and I’ve worked for the other, so I know how hard they work at being natural. It’s not something they just dial in. They work and they practice what they’re going to say. It's not that they're trying to be somebody else. But it's hard work to present yourself in the best possible way. You have to communicate in a way that people say: ‘OK, I get her.’ And that can be more difficult for a woman.

    Because who are your models? If you want to run for the Senate, or run for the Presidency, most of your role models are going to be men. And what works for them won’t work for you. Women are seen through a different lens. It’s not bad. It’s just a fact. It’s really quite funny. I’ll go to these events and there will be men speaking before me, and they’ll be pounding the message, and screaming about how we need to win the election. And people will love it.

    And I want to do the same thing. Because I care about this stuff. But I’ve learned that I can’t be quite so passionate in my presentation. I love to wave my arms, but apparently that’s a little bit scary to people. And I can’t yell too much. It comes across as ‘too loud’ or ‘too shrill’ or ‘too this’ or ‘too that.’ Which is funny, because I’m always convinced that the people in the front row are loving it.”- Hillary Clinton

    Please understand this is not a qualifying reason to vote for her. You can still be completely against voting for her and acknowledge that this is a reality. You don't have to twist it around to say, "oh, you guys are playing the woman card." It's perfectly acceptable to see both sides of the coin.
     
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  4. TesseracT

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    LMAO Hillary performs terribly and the left cries SEXIST at Matt Lauer. so pathetic

    How about your candidate looked like a joke last night

    Everyone is so mean to Clinton. And it's ONLY her right? That's why there was a statue of Trump naked body shaming him for having a small penis. And have called Trump a buffoon for speaking bluntly./ And have made fun of his hair. And have made fun of his tan. And the way he talks. And calling him Hitler and saying he's a dictator narcissist sexist racist.

    But no someone told poor Hillary to smile more.
     
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    Tell me how Trump will take the oil of Iraq and Syria in orde or to defeat ISIS...

    I can't wait to hear the rest of Trumps middle eastern strategy... What are the odds of beating Hillary? Below 70% yet?
     
  6. mtbrays

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    It's not Trump's appearance that makes him an existential threat to our democracy. But think that's the case if you want.
     
  7. dandorotik

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    You are incorrect. Hillary Clinton did not perform terribly. Hillary Clinton answered some questions correctly and some questions incorrectly, which is a common theme among politicians on both sides. Donald Trump answered so many questions incorrectly and vaguely that it would take pages to discuss.

    Face it, your candidate is an ill-prepared candidate. The penis, the hair, the tan, the talk, the Hitler- every single one silly to even be brought up. There's absolute no reason to bring any one of those up. Stupid, juvenile and detracts from the key point.

    But buffoon? Oh, yes, he's that. You're willingly blind or deaf if you can't see or hear that. He is a bull**** artist, plain and simple. There's a difference between politician speak and ignoramus speak. Your candidate literally has no idea or clue how to govern. There is very little parallel between running a corporation and serving as the Head of State for the 3rd (or 4th) most populous country in the world. Very little.

    He is in over his head. And yes, you do need someone in there who has a clue.

    Your candidate is so bad that we can't even keep up with all the completely illogical and downright dangerous ideas he proposes. He's criticized POWs. He's insulted the disabled. He's made completely stupid, unenforceable remarks ("And Mexico will pay for it"). He's impugned the reputation of a judge based on his race. He's been blatantly derogatory towards women for many, many years. He engages in Twitter tirades against reporters. He implied the application of the 2nd Amendment against a Presidential candidate. He's insulted the very people who support him ("I could shoot someone..."). And this is the tip of the iceberg. And yet, people still buy his bull****.
     
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    You're whole post was saying Hilary gets treated differently because she is a woman. So no, that doesn't distract from the key point fo your argument. They are both treated the same by their detractors.
     
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    Did you not read his post? I'm referring to him talking about how Hillary gets attack for being loud and obnoxious and treated unfairly. Which is not the case as Trump gets treated jsut as such
     
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    And Trump is utterly incompetent. We just needed to take away the oil from under ISIS's feet and all would be fine.....
     
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    No, the difference is that the primary attack on Trump is based on what he says, not how he says it. Look at what he has been criticized for. Did anyone say, "It wasn't that he criticized POWs, but that he was YELLING!" Nope. Every long-standing, legit criticism of his is against things that came out of his mouth. You don't even need to use conjecture against him.

    Donald Trump frowned just as much, if not more, than Clinton.

    Clinton gets criticized, Trump doesn't.

    That's it in a nutshell right there.
     
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    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-basket-of-deplorables/

    Clinton: Half of Trump supporters are in 'basket of deplorables'


    LOL. I know the Clinton supporters here will spin the hell out of the above statement and do everything in their power to minimize the damage...

    But when you call roughly 30 million americans (about half of Romney voters) "in a basket of deplorables" its probably akin to Mitt Romney's 47% comment in 2012.

    What a colossal political blunder. Good luck explaining that comment in the debates Hillary.
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    Hillary is so demeaning and degrading. "Basket of deplorables" is a disgusting reference. Among those in that basket are much of our military servicemen and women, and millions of hard working Americans.
     
  14. Realjad

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    I don't blame her. What else other than not well thought out remarks can you expect with someone who has a medical history of brain damage?
     
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    Anyone who is racist, xenophobic, sexist, etc is deplorable, regardless of their service or work ethic.

    I think Jim Wright sums it up best

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Stoneket...0?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

     
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    oh, and now we've got breaking news that she's apologizing. She recognizes what an awful and disrespectful comment she made
     
  17. JayGoogle

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    You see some of them don't think there are that many Trump supporters that are racist, xenophobic, homophobic etc...

    https://thinkprogress.org/is-hillar...the-polling-data-says-2b37625a1df3#.tbbf551vg

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html

    Well, it's maybe not 50% but it's a chunk of his supporters that certainly are those things.
     
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    Are gullible people deplorable? or deserving of our pity?

    Certainly willful ignorance is a deplorable quality and you would have to really really want to believe the Trump schtick to buy any of it.

    So, I'm going with TRUE.
     
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