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Cut Carlos Gomez.

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by underrated015, Aug 8, 2016.

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Who is most responsible for Gomez debacle?

Poll closed Oct 29, 2016.
  1. 5

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  2. Luhnow

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  3. Hinch

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  4. Hitting Coach

    44.4%
  5. Moneyball aggregate offense approach

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  6. Hell if I know but what a disaster

    44.4%
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  1. donkeypunch

    donkeypunch Member

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    I already told one of my fort worth friends, If he rejuvenates for them, Im bombing all of arlington.
     
  2. Rox225

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    I can see it now...Gomez gets several big hits for the Rangers against Houston. It's the only way this season can end.
     
  3. vince

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    Gomez can do what he wants. His head wasn't in it here in Houston. Safe to say he just needed a change of scenery. As far as I'm concerned, he's just another player now. No hate for him, I'm just glad Teoscar Hernandez is getting these crucial at bats.

    Hernandez was viewed as a five tool player, just a few years ago. Guess what he's looking like one rght now in the majors and for most of the year in the minors.
     
  4. vince

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    Imagine had Teoscar Hernandez had gotten picked up in the rule 5 draft. And if he'd been doing this for another team.
     
  5. NIKEstrad

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    It'll be like when the Mets coaches allegedly found the fix for Richard Hidalgo...and then he was out of baseball 18 months later.

    He may be the only comp for guy who has fallen as fast as Gomez.
     
  6. NIKEstrad

    NIKEstrad Member

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    He and Devenski were both guys a lot of the of gurus thought may be at risk but went undrafted.

    Better lucky than good sometimes. In Teoscar's case, he was coming off a poor year at AA, but the tools were never in question.

    I'm still not sure if his defense plays in CF, but at a minimum he looks like a nice 4th OF who can provide speed or pop. We've actually been missing that this year with the Preston Tucker or Tony Kemp options.

    Let's hope he keeps hitting.
     
  7. msn

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    I asked a similar question last week and was lectured on the role of major league hitting coaches. :cool:
     
  8. conquistador#11

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    Is hernandez's defense so bad that it can't be hidden at LF? If his ops is anywhere in the .800s never mind the .973 it is now, you can live with hernandez out on the outfield. Hernandez/marisnick/springer
     
  9. PhiSlammaJamma

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    What is our record without Gomez?
     
  10. NIKEstrad

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    He'll get to a lot of balls an average LF wouldn't get to.

    I think people are reacting to - a.) a few balls where he seemingly jogged and made a difficult catch instead of an easy one and b.) poor decision making as a center fielder where he has airmailed the throw instead of hitting the cutoff man (once when he allowed a catcher to score from 2nd because he didn't charge a single into center field)

    Those issues are in theory fixable, as opposed to Tony Kemp's noodle arm in left. They're just also more frustrating.
     
  11. sealclubber1016

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    It hasn't hurt us, but Hernandez's approach to routine balls is he most aggravating thing I have ever seen defensively.
     
  12. Hey Now!

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    I really hope they can build enough offense into the line-up to afford starting Marisnick in CF.

    Man, Bregman, Hernandez and Reed all at least look the part: very selective and patient. For all the angst at the deadline... if these guys continue to get better, I'm not sure, along with Gurriel, that a team added more to their offense. Big IF... but so far, so good.
     
  13. Nook

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    You don't need to "hide" Hernandez. He doesn't take the best routes to balls and doesn't exercise the best fundamentals...... but he has a long stride, long body and can easily cover left and right field even if he takes odd routes.
     
  14. Nook

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    This has been my hope as well. Marisnick is absolutely elite defensively in centerfield. He can run the bases well and is financially affordable, allowing for money to be spent on pitching. However, I think for it to work the Astros would need to get a good offensive catcher.
     
  15. juicystream

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    Evan Gattis? I'm pretty sure our current C tandem would be good enough. The problem is 1B, LF, & DH have all been bad.
     
  16. Nook

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    Possibly a Gattis platoon with another solid offensive catcher.

    The assumption was that Reed, Hernandez and Gurriel play well (which is obvious unlikely... will be lucky if 2 of 3 pan out).

    Marisnick is just not a good hitter most of the time.

    Still the possibility of saving money at 1st, C, LF and CF could really open up money for a starter or a real closer.
     
  17. studogg

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    couldn't agree more. that's why Texas getting Lucroy hurt. He's has (and is going to continue) to pay dividends.
     
  18. Nook

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    It hurts quite a bit the rest of this seasons and next season. LuCroy is a quality hitter and can hit well anywhere in the order.

    The one thing to keep in mind is that the Rangers paid a high price.

    Lewis Brinson is a top 25 prospect and has hit very well in AAA for the Brewers thus far.

    Luis Ortiz is a top 75 prospect, and is generally well thought of.

    The third player in the deal is supposed to be a top prospect of the Rangers as well.
     
  19. Snake Diggit

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    I think the PTBNL going to Milwaukee is Gallo; they just made it that way so the Rangers could use him for the rest of this season and the playoffs.
     
  20. juicystream

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    Brinson was having a terrible year in AA.
     

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