Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

TesseracT · Aug 19, 2016

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Who else here is expecting Trump to have some random talk to FOX news soon about how big Trump's unit is.

I wouldn't be surprised if he releases a dick pick.
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You certainly sound like someone who would like to see that picture

TesseracT · Aug 19, 2016

Trump Donates 70,000 Lbs Worth Of Supplies For Louisiana Flood Victims

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Cohete Rojo · Aug 19, 2016

TesseracT said: ↑

Trump Donates 70,000 Lbs Worth Of Supplies For Louisiana Flood Victims

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What did #BLM donate? I'm curious to know.

Mr.Scarface · Aug 20, 2016

TesseracT said: ↑

Trump Donates 70,000 Lbs Worth Of Supplies For Louisiana Flood Victims

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Trump trying to buy votes.....lol.

London'sBurning · Aug 20, 2016

Mr.Scarface said: ↑

Trump trying to buy votes.....lol.
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Regardless of intent, it's still going to help those in need right now. Props.

Sweet Lou 4 2 · Aug 20, 2016

by the way has anyone noticed that r/thedonald is a major safe space?

NewRoxFan · Aug 20, 2016

Not to mention, Trump made this speech in a largely white community...

At a rally Friday night in Dimondale, Mich., Donald Trump repeated a version of a plea to black voters that he'd offered 24 hours earlier in Charlotte, N.C.

"No group in America has been more harmed by Hillary Clinton's policies than African-Americans," he said, apparently pointing to individuals in the crowd. "No group. No group. If Hillary Clinton's goal was to inflict pain to the African-American community, she could not have done a better job. It is a disgrace."

"Detroit tops the list of most dangerous cities in terms of violent crime, number one," he said from a city 90 minutes away from Detroit with a population that is 93 percent white. "This is the legacy of the Democratic politicians who have run this city. This is the result of the policy agenda embraced by crooked Hillary Clinton."

He went on.

Speaking at a rally in Dimondale, Mich., Aug. 19, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump accused Democrat Hillary Clinton of exploiting African American voters. "America must reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton," Trump said. (The Washington Post)
"The only way to change results is to change leadership. We can never fix our problems by relying on the same politicians who created our problems in the first place. A new future requires brand new leadership," he said.

"Look at how much African-American communities are suffering from Democratic control. To those I say the following: What do you have to lose by trying something new like Trump? What do you have to lose?" he asked. "You live in your poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed, what the hell do you have to lose?"

This was not the Teleprompter Trump that we saw in Charlotte, interlacing his prepared remarks with occasional asides. This was Traditional Trump, riffing a bit more on what he wanted to say in a manner that probably didn't do him much good.

Consider: Black Americans are not "living in poverty" as a general rule. A quarter of the black population is, according to data from the Kaiser Family Foundation, about the same as the percentage of Hispanics. In Michigan, the figure is slightly higher. Most black Americans don't live in poverty, just as most white Americans don't.

Consider: The unemployment rate in the black community is higher than that in the white community, as it has been since the Department of Labor started keeping track. Among young blacks, though, the figure is not 59 percent -- unless (as Politifact noted) you consider not the labor force but every young black American, including high school students. Many young black high school students are unemployed. This isn't a metric that Labor typically uses, for obvious reasons, but calculating the rates for young whites gives you about 50 percent, too.

Consider: Black voters are perfectly able to evaluate candidates on qualities other than their political parties. Black voters began supporting the Democratic Party heavily thanks to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Since then, they have consistently voted for the party -- a party that is one-fifth black and which since 1964 has elected the vast majority of the black members of Congress. (This line of argument from Al Sharpton in 2004 is worth a read.) Democrats win the support of black voters consistently because those voters like the work that they do and like the fights that they fight.

When Barack Obama won reelection in 2012, 93 percent of black Americans thought he was doing a good job as president. That's also the percentage of the vote he received, according to exit polls, beating Mitt Romney by 87 points.

And yet, somehow, Trump is doing worse.

In the battle between Trump and Hillary Clinton, Trump consistently lands in the low-single-digits of support from black Americans. In some polls, he has received 0 percent support, a negligible amount. In our most recent survey, he got 2 percent support.

Why? Because nonwhite voters view Trump very unfavorably. We wrote about this in June, but can now update the numbers. Four-in-5 blacks have a very unfavorable view of Trump, with a slightly higher percentage, 83 percent, agreeing with the idea that he is biased against women and minorities. Eighty-seven percent of black voters we surveyed indicated that they would be anxious if he were elected president and only 6 percent "comfortable." The numbers for Clinton -- who very quickly tweeted that Trump's Michigan comments were "so ignorant it's staggering" -- were nearly completely flipped.

There are any number of reasons that black Americans might view Trump unfavorably, starting with his 2011 effort to cast suspicion on Obama's place of birth. Or, probably, starting with his full-page ad calling for the death penalty against five black teenagers in New York City who were accused of rape -- wrongly, as it turned out. Or perhaps thanks to the support his current candidacy is getting from people like former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke.

There's no reason to think that Donald Trump's suggestion that black Americans had "nothing to lose" because they "are living in poverty" will do anything to reverse that trend. Nor was his insistence in North Carolina that he should get votes from black voters because "the inner cities are so bad." Some black people, research shows, live in places beside the "inner city."

So why make the argument? It could be, simply enough, that Trump doesn't have anyone in his inner circle that can provide a sense of how to reach out to the black community. One adviser said on CNN that the fact Trump made his appeal in a mostly white town wasn't a big deal, and that "maybe it would have been nice if he went and had a backdrop with a burning car." Or maybe Trump was listening to Ben Carson, who in May made a similar argument for Trump: he would only be president for four years, so what could go wrong?

It's likely that Trump's continuing lack of meaningful outreach to black voters keeps him from understanding effective ways of arguing his case. When he went to Baton Rouge to see flood damage, he stopped at a Baptist church with a mostly-white congregation.

Or maybe black voters aren't his intended audience. Maybe, with his poll numbers low thanks to soft support from his own party, Trump is trying to convince Republicans that he wants or can earn the black vote. In our most recent poll, a fifth of Republican men and a quarter of Republican women agreed with the statement that Trump is biased against women and minorities. He gets 90 and 80 percent of the vote from those groups, respectively. Maybe this is an attempt to get them to see him as doing real outreach, even if he isn't.

Of all of the claims that Trump made on Friday night, though, perhaps none is as laughable as his ultimate prediction.

"At the end of four years, I guarantee you, that I will get over 95 percent of the African-American vote," he said. "I will produce for the inner-cities and I will produce for the African-Americans. The Democrats will not produce and all they've done is taken advantage of your vote. That's they've done. And once the election's over, they go back to their palaces in Washington and, you know what, they do nothing for you, just remember it."

Black voters will not give Donald Trump 95 percent of the vote should he be up for reelection in 2020. If he got 25 percent of the vote from black Americans, it would be remarkable. And unless he convinces his own party to support his candidacy, the only one returning to a golden palace after election day will be Donald Trump.
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Commodore · Aug 21, 2016

trying to decide if supporting Trump turns one into a moron, or just reveals it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actual thing Rudy Giuliani said on <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxNewsSunday">@FoxNewsSunday</a>: "Go online & put down 'Hillary Clinton illness,' take a look at the videos for yourself."</p>— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/767359545186320385">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Rox225 · Aug 21, 2016

Commodore said: ↑

trying to decide if supporting Trump turns one into a moron, or just reveals it

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Actual thing Rudy Giuliani said on <a href="https://twitter.com/FoxNewsSunday">@FoxNewsSunday</a>: "Go online & put down 'Hillary Clinton illness,' take a look at the videos for yourself."</p>— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/767359545186320385">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote>
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The internet NEVER lies!

Commodore · Aug 21, 2016

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The internet NEVER lies!
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fwiw I think Hillary has been very secretive about her health and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she is hiding something

but saying "go online" about anything is weapons grade stupid

Ubiquitin · Aug 21, 2016

Commodore said: ↑

fwiw I think Hillary has been very secretive about her health and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she is hiding something

but saying "go online" about anything is weapons grade stupid
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Per public reports:
She takes armor thyroid for hypothyroidism and she takes coumadin for a cerebral vein thrombosis. He had diploplia for several months after her cerebral vein thrombosis which has since resolved.

Not 100% healthy, but surprisingly more healthy than most 70 year olds.

Dubious · Aug 21, 2016

Top men will monitor her urine and fecal matter, top men.

Invisible Fan · Aug 21, 2016

Dubious said: ↑

Top men will monitor her urine and fecal matter, top men.
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Ken Starr needs a job.

Coincidence? More like CON-spiracy.

Sweet Lou 4 2 · Aug 21, 2016

Commodore said: ↑

fwiw I think Hillary has been very secretive about her health and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she is hiding something
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I hear they found horns growing out of her head and a spiked tail but have doctors surgically remove them so they are trying to keep that all hidden

RocketsLegend · Aug 22, 2016

Democrats playing dirty. I don't know how anyone is willing to vote Dem. They are so corrupt.

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Buck Turgidson · Aug 22, 2016

Dubious said: ↑

Top men will monitor her urine and fecal matter, top men.
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Sweet Lou 4 2 · Aug 22, 2016

RocketsLegend said: ↑

Democrats playing dirty. I don't know how anyone is willing to vote Dem. They are so corrupt.

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Those laws apply to field registers whom are appointed by the clerk. Anyone of us can go to Nevada and hand out voter registration applications and tell people to vote for whomever. However, you can't collect those forms and submit them for people.

It's not clear from the video that they were collection the forms from people for later submission. So the video doesn't show them breaking the law.

Rashmon · Aug 22, 2016

RocketsLegend said: ↑

Democrats playing dirty. I don't know how anyone is willing to vote Dem. They are so corrupt.

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I've already voted ten times by proxy. You better get on the ball.

NewRoxFan · Aug 22, 2016

Perhaps an example of "all us brown people look alike"?

Donald Trump Outreach Inaccurately Claimed Top Hispanic Pastor as Advisor
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http://time.com/4460844/donald-trump-hispanic-advisory-council-mark-gonzales/

Favorite quote of the article:

“We are stuck with the Republican nominee this particular election,” Gonzales said. “We are just looking for a glimmer of light come Thursday … If he wants the support of the Latino community in the numbers that he needs to win the election, that is on him.”
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NewRoxFan · Aug 22, 2016

Well, even Mike Pence can only laugh at Trump's statements...

Mike Pence shocks Fox News host after laughing off Trump’s claim to 95% of Black support in 2020

Fox News’ Ainsley Earhardt interviewed the Republican vice presidential candidate for a segment on Monday’s “Fox & Friends,” and appeared a bit surprised by the conservative’s reaction to Trump’s latest outrageous claim — winning back African-American voters for “the party of Abraham Lincoln.”

“Donald Trump is telling the African-American community ‘I am the guy for you,’ and he says by 2020 he’s going to have 95% of the African-American support,” Earhardt said to Pence as he revealed a big grin and a hearty chuckle.

“Why are you laughing?” she asked Pence with her own smile.
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