which states in particular do you think are having success under obamacare? California seems in big trouble as does New York
What happened to the people who forgo it and pay the penalty? Sounds like some of those things could be fixed. Eliminate coverage if you don't pay the premiums (patient is on the hook). Also, sick people do get care, they just go to the ER which is the most expensive - and insurance companies don't pay for that except through higher overall costs. Seems hospitals would benefit from Obamacare. Regardless, thanks for sharing this - you dropped some knowledge!
my bad. just the way you attacked republican state legislatures made me think you did. Every Republican opposed this thing and when it completely blows up like Republicans said it would, we get 'why aren't the republicans fixing it?'. I recall many posts in the Obamacare thread saying Republicans opposed it just because they hate Obama. Turns out they opposed it because it is a piece of **** like they said. who woulda thunk.
A pox on both their houses. What I do criticize republicans for is that they have made a political decision to make sure aca hurts people and fails wherever possible. There are definitely things that can be done to make it less painful for the American people And republicans have taken the approach that anything other than complete repeal is off the table.
You mean explain how Republicans sabotage government then get to play the "we told you so card"? Why ain't the folks complaining the most doing anything? What happened? Ain't go no solutions? Did the democrats take the Republican's private exchange idea? Why are you so proud of trying to lead from behind? Funny how ACA shares many similarities with the only viable Republican sponsored legislation put forth in 3 decades.... State exchanges... Minimum standards... No denial of pre-existing conditions.... Funny.... How Romney didn't campaign on Romneycare in 2012....
He clearly did.... It's a great racket.... Say how government doesn't work.... obstruct...impede... oppose... And lo and behold....
Alright I will try to walk you through this.... If only Democrats vote for it and it fails in states executed by Democrats and the executive branch is run by Democrats, then where exactly are the Republicans to blame for its failure? You seem to think that Republicans not fixing the Democrats mess makes them accountable for the ACA's failure. It doesn't. As for Republicans trying to fix this mess though...... , not that I am a fan of this plan.
Like myself? I use short term coverage for the 1/4 of the cost of the Bronze plans. I still pay the penalty, but Im still covered for most single incidents. If I hit a catastrophic point and need pre-existing coverage, then Ill jump on Obamacare. Non-emergency incidents are not very expensive. If I come down with the flu, I can get a visit and a script for less than $100.00 That is not how insurance works. You can't backdate a drop based on premiums paid or not paid. What people are doing is getting policies enacted before paying premiums or not continuing to pay them. If insurance companies could do this, then they would do all kinds of shady ****. Is this what you're advocating? Or what people are more likely doing is enrolling into Obamacare, happy they finally get coverage and actually start using it. Then they realize what a ****ty product it is and can't afford the premiums. Focus. Yes, people go to the ER when they are not insured and never pay their bills. However people with insurance are more likely to use the ER for non-emergency incidents or wait until the incident becomes very serious.
The argument is that Republicans hastened the inevitable failure of the ACA by not playing along. Obviously it's a disaster everywhere else too.
Why pay the penalty when the premium is so small? Plus you can't just pop on Obamacare you can only enroll certain times and triggers. It is actually. Your provider doesn't get reimbursed right away. If you have insurance and stop paying your premiums for a month - then you are responsible for paying all the medical costs in that month. Obamacare might be different, but I know this is the case for other plans first hand. Do you have anything to back that up - it run contrary to what I have seen
This is why insurance will fail: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/eco...ids-allergies-scrambling-ahead-school-n633071
That other poster already walked everyone through it and I clearly bolded the summary. So you are saying the only folks elected representatives are for, are for the people who elect them? Hopefully you can appreciate why people are tired of that partisanship and passing the buck.
Apparently, we don't share the same country if we vote separate parties. Apparenetly Republicans arent responsible for democrats.
Fail? No ACA/insurance is "failing" and "devastating" America because we got too many folks in poor health who never were in the insurance pool until now. It's beyond me why Conservatives, who cry about spending, are so eager to spend an exorbitant amount of money on obesity related illnesses for the medicare crowd. You think your premiums are expensive now on ACA.....
Sooo by this logic, you share responsibility for Trump running for president. Gotcha! Well done getting Trump this far.
this stuff is complicated and i'm no expert but since obamacare went in my insurance premiums have gone up year after year without any additional service or features. this is extremely aggravating especially when you consider how wasteful our government spending is. i don't mind paying my share and helping out even if it means tightening up my belt to get it done but those government bastards better tighten their belts first. until they do i say screw helping everyone at only our expense. they can start cutting military and foreign aid and redirecting that aid to our people.
Exchanges do work for some health plans. Ask Kaiser. http://www.modernhealthcare.com/art...medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
