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Supreme Court Appointment Watch

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Feb 24, 2016.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    So basically, you only vote for republican candidates. Which I am sure will happen again in November.

    Talk about small-mindedness... though I am afraid there is no hope of you becoming a better person.
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    Not surprised you needed to pivot from your previous statements re: Obama not working with republicans and that Democrats would publicly state that they would not work with Bush, yet you fail to substantiate your claim. No surprising.

    So now you pivot and say it was Bush who pulled troops from Iraq. You criticize the Affordable Care Act, even though it provided health care to millions who would not have heath care coverage or resort to more costly sources such as ERs. And amazingly, you credit republicans for deficit reduction... since apparently Obama not President the past seven plus years.

    Perhaps you'd like to offer a list of significant contributions the republican congress has made to benefit the American people. After all, the republicans have enjoyed majorities in both the senate and house, so I am sure they have been able to accomplish a lot in the time they have had control. I am sure the American people would be interested in this... might help improve the public opinion of Congress which is what, 40 % below President Obama's approval right now?
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    I knew it would be beyond you to give him credit (and you claim anything he accomplished was actually someone else)...seems its beyond the abilities of a small-minded person that is so rigidly set in his thinking. So... partisan in his thinking.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    I only vote for people that will push the country in the right direction, as such, I usually vote Libertarian and I'll certainly vote that way in November. If there is a Republican that supports enough of what I believe in, I'll vote for them. In theory if there was a Democrat that supports enough of what I believe in, I'd vote for them.....I just haven't seen that Democrat.

    It seems that you are once again showing your small minded binary thinking. Hopefully in time you'll learn how to overcome that.

    Are you so young that you don't remember it? I shouldn't have to "substantiate" a claim that has already happened.

    It was, which was a mistake. I said so then, I said so when Obama was taking credit for it, I say so now that he's blaming Bush.

    Yes, I criticize Obamacare that is already collapsing even though Obama's term isn't up yet. It was a bad bill from the beginning and it's still bad now.

    I credit the congress that forced the president to allow spending cuts and deficit reductions instead of crediting the president who fought against it.....yes.

    Well they haven't been able to do much given Obama's obstructionism, but cutting the deficit by 2/3 is a pretty good thing most would agree (especially when they are trying to give Obama credit for it)
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Give him credit for what? You haven't explained all of the amazing things Obama has done that I'm not crediting him for. That would be a good place to start if you think I should credit him for more.
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    Apparently you believe you know how old I am. And as always, you are completely wrong. But being wrong is something you seem to take pride in.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    No.....I'm saying that I assumed that you'd be old enough to remember but you are acting like you are not. I'm still waiting for the long list of accomplishments Obama has had that you think I should give him credit for.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    Not worth my time to type them out, as you would simply claim some other person or group deserve the credit. But in case you know how to read, here are a few articles you can debate...

    http://washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/marchapril-2012/obamas-top-50-accomplishments/

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/obama-biggest-achievements-213487

    http://theweek.com/articles/597635/extraordinarily-complicated-successes-president-obama
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    I take that as you being able to come up with less off the top of your head than I could. Not a good look.

    The number one "accomplishment" they come up with is Obamacare, which is failing even before he's out of office....pretty embarrassing. #4 on the list is giving Obama credit for Bush's blunder of leaving Iraq prematurely...

    Also considers the disaster that is Obamacare as Obama's #1 accomplishment....more embarrassing.

    I'm not interested in sifting through a wall of text puff piece, it wasn't immediately clear what "accomplishments" they were trying to felate the president for.
     
  10. CometsWin

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    You got trolled bro. Never debate a sociopath.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    So, the Senate is going to get a candidate crammed down their throats by Obama as he leaves office, probably do it right after the election.

    Whelp, it is their own fault for not meeting with candidates.

    DD
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    Yes, correct, the guy is simply here to argue, regardless of how wrong he is and how much of an a--hole he appears. Pointless to try... and my bad, I forgot what George Bernard Shaw taught:

    "I learned a long time ago, never to wrestle with a pig, you get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

    I forgot how he went down with the SS Ryan Mallett even after he was sunk.
     
  13. justtxyank

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    Just one small note...

    Every major insurer now except Blue Cross has announced they are exiting the exchanges for 2017. So that expanded care is about to disappear. Additionally, ER usage is through the rough since the ACA was passed on individual plans, the single largest driver of losses.
     
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  14. Bobbythegreat

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    The lesson you need to learn is never argue with your betters. Seek out peers because I'll make you look bad every single time you bring that weak BS.
     
  15. Amiga

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    His type of mindset is what make Trump possible. But these people will not take responsibility and continue to blame and come up with all kind of excuses.
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    Anytime you call me "delusional" in any way, I know I'm on the right track, given your residence on Bullsh!t Mountain.

    So, the "only reason" that the deficit was $1.4 trillion was because Obama voted for it. I love it when people prove my points so clearly.

    No, Congress went to that extreme because they were extremists. Obama offered to negotiate repeatedly on the debt ceiling, even putting Social Security cuts on the table.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...ecurity-cuts/2011/07/06/gIQA2sFO1H_story.html

    Bull****. In the previous post, you gave one example of something you think Obama did well or deserves credit for. This is clear, compelling evidence that you're unable to give Obama the credit he deserves for a number of things.

    It was the only thing. We had an agreement with Iraq, they didn't want our troops to stay, and Obama honored the agreement. The mistake was being in Iraq in the first place.

    Do you ever get tired of being wrong? The financial crisis was a large part, spending increases were another component, as were revenue shortfalls from two tax cuts enacted during a time of war.

    The federal deficit rose from $165 billion in 2007 to $1.4 trillion two years later. What was the one major event that affected government budgets worldwide in that time frame?

    http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/spending_chart_2000_2020USk_17s2li011mcn_G0f_Annual_Federal_Deficit

    Hilarious. I didn't even vote for the man, I just have the ability to assess and evaluate factual information. You'll never know because you choose to believe bullsh!t over evidence.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    .....well, it wasn't JUST him that voted for it, but yeah, the ONLY reason the deficit was 1.4 trillion was because that was the budget pushed by Obama and the congressional Democrats and Bush didn't veto it. I'm not sure what you think you are proving.

    He's a bad president that has accomplished very little...and I gave 3 things. On top of that, when I asked what you thought I was missing that Obama should be given credit for, you came up with 0 things.....so again, I'm not sure what you think you are proving, but you aren't doing it very well. Come up with some things that you think I should give Obama credit for off the top of your head if you think it's wrong that I could only come up with 3. Till then....you're just proving that I came up with more than you did.
     
  18. GladiatoRowdy

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    I didn't prove it, you did. You so desperately want to blame things on Obama that you gave him the blame, directly, for the 2009 budget deficit. Not 1/436 of the blame, you decided to say that it was Obama's fault because he voted for a budget. You ignore the facts that show the financial crisis as the largest driver of that deficit and just try to blame Obama, again.

    You're a biased partisan and it shows.

    You gave Cuba, one thing.

    I've replied nearly sentence by sentence, must have missed that question. However, other posters have supplied a bunch of positive impacts Obama has had and you just make the same delusional comments and deny reality again and again.

    Once again, I'm not proving a thing. You're proving, with every new post, that you're a biased partisan.

    You came up with one. However, I'll just toss three out there for you...
    -Nominated Sotomayor and Kagan, which is one of the biggest reasons that homosexuals now enjoy the same marriage rights as heterosexuals.
    -Oversaw the lowest spending growth of any modern president.
    -Implemented a law that has resulted in the lowest rate of uninsured Americans in history.

    Don't bother dithering over whether these are positive impacts, doing so will really just go further to show you up as a biased partisan.

    You will always be able to come up with more bullsh!t than I can. That's what happens when you care about an ideology to the point that you can ignore facts and evidence.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Should be fun, I've been asking you for this for quite a while

    So you're giving Obama credit for a decision by a conservative dominated SCOTUS....not partisan at all.

    This is skewed by the 2009 budget passed by Obama and the Democrats that increased spending by over half a trillion dollars in one single year. Sure, after that massive, irresponsible increase in spending it slowed down afterwards but that's like doubling your taxes and then not raising them for a few years....did you really get done a favor?

    I assume you are talking about Obamacare.....which is already falling apart just like opponents to the bill said it would.....bravo.

    So.....pointing out that these are either gross exaggerations, lies, or not positive "accomplishments" shows that I'M the partisan? LOL that's hilarious.

    When it comes down to it, you really didn't have anything.
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    It won't be fun for you at all, biased partisans don't have fund debating against me.

    And you're choosing not to give Obama any credit at all, despite the fact that he nominated two justices who voted for the ruling. Note that I didn't give Obama the credit for the decision, merely for the appointments.

    When you're trying to rebut someone's argument, it is helpful to understand the argument so that you don't throw up straw men like you did here.

    You realize that spending went down from 2009 to 2010, right? Were you aware that spending didn't go back above 2009 levels until this year?

    Yet again, you blame 2009 spending entirely on Democrats, ignore the fact that the single biggest reason there was more spending that year was the result of the financial crisis, and put out a straw man of an analogy that isn't even remotely accurate.

    There are certainly naysaysers who have been claiming the ACA has been "falling apart" since its inception. Of course, the numbers show that the most dramatic result has been the lowest level of uninsured American in history.

    Yes, it does. None of these are remotely close to "lies" and the fact that you don't see them as positive achievements puts you smack dab in the "biased partisan" camp.

    Yes, your ignorance of fact usually is.

    Your decision to ignore my post's points in favor of unsupported, unsubstantiated bullsh!t shows that what I do have is a very accurate picture of your biased partisanship.
     

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