For a guy who once said Aaron Brooks was on Steve Nash's level, you sure have become condescending over the years. And no, I do want to know if the shot is going in. Since it's a final possession, the refs will be reluctant to call fouls. So what's the benefit in using TS%? I'm simply pointing out that each of those stats (FG%/eFG%/TS%) have their own merits when used in the proper context. To dismiss FG% entirely is short-sighted. Even Phil Jackson said that one of the differences between Kobe and Jordan was their accuracy. Kobe shot 45% while Jordan shot 50%.
I will assume this is you disagreeing with me. Care to present your counter argument? You don't have to be a top 5 team defensively to win it all. You do however, have to be a top 5 team offensively. There are things that can help compensate for weaker defense, such as increasing pace for example. Again, D is important, but O is far more important. As for top 5 players, most of the time the players there are not even close to being defensively great players. At this point, you are discussing a very specific situation; 4th or OT with limited time remaining and the scoring close or tied. If we had to pick one of those 3 shooting metrics, eFG% or FG% would be more important than TS%. This past season, Harden struggled in that area. The season prior to that however, he was very good, but people have short memories. I won't waste time looking for those stats again as they have been brought up repeatedly each year by different articles and posters, but try searching on Google if you are curious.
Too bad, you could have learned something instead of continuing to be the ignorant "fan" that you are.
First of all, raw FG% is less meaningful because it doesn't factor in the difference between 3 point and 2 point shots. Second, free throw rate is important - TS% may actually undersell Harden's dominance due to the way it factors in free throws.
Its just as objective, because FG% includes misses, when fouls are called. What would be objective would be FG% when a foul is not called. No such metric, I know of, shows that. So no, TS% is superiors to raw FG% in basically every way.
increasing pace doesn't necessarily help a weak defense. it actually can hurt it because it allows for more possessions in a game and makes the defensive side of the ball more tiresome.
That's why I said it can help not will help. It still depends on scoring efficiency not tanking and the ability to sustain the increased pace without tiring yourself out. Increasing drives can also help by putting opposing D in foul trouble. To
No, no it literally does not. Everything relies on referee. Non-calls. Calls. Before a shot. After a shot. Makes. Misses. FG%. TS%. It's not your opinion. It's juts objectively false. Look it's pretty clear by now that you never got into reading past the simplistic metrics. Just go do some reading.
When you increase the pace of the game, the game does speed up, at least for the team that's increasing the pace, but the true objective is to increase the number of possessions. Each possession is a chance to score. When you increase the pace, you force the D to match you. This will tire them out faster. The caveat however, is that if your offense cannot keep up with its scoring, your players get tired, or both, then it's largely wasted.
which is what i was looking at, the defensive side pov. teams that tend to employ Good defenses value possessions higher and try to limit the number of them at a more set rate. Just a case of different philosophies
LoL, you really like that middle school math. I do not want to spend much time to explain, but here is a few hints. If you look back how the TS% formula is derived, 1) Is the TS% formula change with time, i.e. from season to season? 2) Is the TS% formula change from league to league? 3) Is the TS% formula change from country to country? After you get answers to those questions, you will understand why TS% is not objective.
There are tons of articles explaining TS%. Just read a couple for the sake of everyone. http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/08/31/nylon-calculus-101-true-shooting-percentage/ http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/350333
I can't believe you guys are arguing over wether Harden is an efficient and great offensive player? Even his biggest detractors in the media don't even think this. Mark Jackson said it best during the playoffs vs the Warriors in the WCF finals. James Harden is playing at an all time level on the offensive end. It's extremely rare what JH is doing the past 4 years. The great thing is he's still relatively young and is just hitting his prime in basketball years. Very good chance that he keeps up his pace or gets better for the next 5-6 years.
No one is arguing really. We have a few spouting nonsense based on an understanding of basketball as shallow as a puddle and the rest telling these few how absolutely, astoundingly wrong they are and why basic box score stats are as worthless as dog dung. People who understand how basketball works all know what sort of player Harden is on offense. Klay might be a better defender, but Harden is indisputably superior on offense. As far as one having better shooting percentages... well no ****, he's a shooter in an offense designed to give him good lucks with not one, but two playmakers. Now three with the addition of KD.
