lol It was reported that they are going to drain the water tonight after failing to get it clear. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...refill-pool-rid-green-water-article-1.2749926
Yeah we should be ashamed that we dominate a fake sport like swimming (half of which came in freestyle events). Simone Biles is probably gonna account for 5 golds in another fake sport like gymnastics, we probably shouldn't count those either. If we really had the best athletes we would dominate real sports like diving and table tennis.
This, they should really get rid of the different swimming styles and make it only freestyle. Different distances is okay, but why include so many different styles and races? Could as well implement five different competitions for something like shot put: 1. One arm, half turn 2. One arm, spin around 2x before throwing 3. Two arms. 4. Throw it from behind. 5. Throw it from the chest with two hands The amount of swimming competitions really makes the medal count meaningless.
Yeas I do, he wanted to eliminate all swimming medals to put us in 3rd (his quote not mine). If you only eliminate the non-freestyle events, we are still first in golds, and total medals. The freestyle medals are no different than sprinting distances, why shouldn't they count.
Swimming is pretty fun to watch though, I must admit but yup they probably should cut some and include some more martial arts, skateboarding...... and so on
Really bugs me to see how Judo, probably the ugliest sport, is held in such high regards, while a ton of respectable and much more entertaining martial arts don't get an Olympics gig.
You realize we get just as many medals from Track and Field as we do from Swimming right? I guess the medal count should be deemed meaningless just because two sports have a lot of medals to hand out right? If you take away the top two sports away of the Chinese they wouldn't have many medals either. We dominate so many sports across the olympics. Some of them in specific areas, but they don't all have a lot of medals. The point is we still dominate the olympics. There isn't another country that has the range we do. China is the only one that comes close. Hopefully some of our top golfers grow a pair and participate in 2020 and when baseball/softball starts in 2020, that'll be yet another few medals to add to our count.
Great job putting words in my mouth, never said anything like that. Also never used the "swimming = too many medals" point to bash the USA and I don't give a crap who wins the medal race. You realize how many different events there are in track&field? Bad comparison when just using swimming, a better comparison would be swimming vs. 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m and 110m hurdles, I'm excluding the team events. That's five medals for the whole running department, while in swimming you have four each for 100m and 200m events, it's unnecessary and takes up too much medals of the overall medal count. As I said in my previous post, you could do the same crap and easily create five different shot put events, this would also work for other events (let's say high jump with 1) one leg, 2) two legs, etc.). Never said anything different, not sure why you think I don't respect the overall US Olympics accomplishments.
Those different swim strokes have been in the Olympcs for over a hundred years. There's no water javelin, water shot put, water decathlon, water pentathlon, water hurdles, water high jump, water long jump, water discus. Those strokes aren't made up nonsense like how many legs you use to make a high jump.
Funny to see how legitimacy works for many people: It has been around for a long time = legitimate event, don't question it It's new and not yet institutionalized = "made up nonsense" If history were reversed, you'd say the concept of four different 100m swimming events would be utter nonsense and at the same time you wouldn't question let's say different shot put or high jump events. This is backed up by looking at the medal winners, when you constantly have the same guys winning multiple versions, it's obvious that the skillset needed for each stroke is 90% the same and you'll have a much more narrow pool of winners, which leads to padding the medal count. Hence why your logic with the "there's no water javelin, water shot put, water decathlon, water pentathlon, water hurdles, water high jump, water long jump, water discus." also completely fails, as those would actually be completely different events which rely on unique skillsets, so you'd have different athletes for each event and no one would say the events are too similar or easy for padding the medal count. It's baffling to see how many people don't understand this extremely easy logic and come up with nonsense comparisons (100m, 200m, 400m swimming in four different strokes compared to the whole track&field which has anything from running short distance, long distance, hurdles, throwing different objects, different jumping events, pole vault, heptatlon, decathlon, marathon, etc).
As long as the US does not dominate all Team sports and Ball sports that is good for me as those are my favorite sports. Tennis Soccer Hand Ball Regular Hockey Volleyball
Track has 100, 200, 400, 800 ,1500 and 2 relays. I get that you guys want to ignore the other 3 swimming strokes, but even ignoring those the US still won 8 gold medals in freestyle swimming. I don't see why freestyle swimming has any less credibility than sprinting. Even ignoring our "padded" medal count via the other 3, we are still atop the medal count.
So, Ryan Lochte got held up at gunpoint on his way to a party last night. http://deadspin.com/report-ryan-lochte-held-up-at-gunpoint-1785270506 Funny that the IOC came out to flat deny that it happened, despite the reports and not long before his own mother confirmed it. It's one thing to "no comment" your way through it because you don't have all of the facts and don't want to spread misinformation, but denying it makes it seem like you're just trying to cover it up in hopes that the story goes away.
Of course, as I say that, I see that there are, in fact, conflicting reports. Lochte's personal coach has denied that he was held up. Just kind of a weird situation. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/14/olympic-swimmer-ryan-lochte-held-up-gunpoint-rio/88715436/
I don't think anyone is arguing that. Just that the actual medal count and distance between the countries is padded because there ARE so many medals. If you take out all the excess swimming medals, as you said, the US is still on top. But it's not quite the same level of domination. I think the earlier point about the same people winning is important - the idea is to have lots of medals to test different skillsets. If the same people generally leading all the different events, you're not likely testing much variety in skill sets. "Track and field" is not a comparison to "swimming". As you suggested, the various running events would be a good comparison - there are a lot more swimming medals than running medals.
I think they should get rid of all the strokes. I should be who the fastest swimmer is. It would be like skipping and hopping in racing.
