I won't be voting for Trump. I just don't dislike him for the stupid reasons that are being talked about in the media. I don't care if he makes a joke about hackers finding Hillary's missing emails and sending them to the FBI. I don't care if he says Obama founded ISIS. I don't trust him and I don't agree with his protectionist economic policies or his stated policies of killing family members of terrorists. That doesn't mean I can't point out that no serious person would think Trump is actually inviting foreign attacks on the United States, or that he has some power to do so that means anything. I will be voting for Gary Johnson come November and wrote in Rand Paul in the primary. I like Hillary less than I like Trump, but I wouldn't vote for either of them living in California. Maybe if I was in Ohio I would hold my nose and vote for Trump on the off chance he is serious about his judicial appointees.
History has seen stuff like this before: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-election-observers-rigged http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/12/politics/donald-trump-pennsylvania-cheating/index.html It tends to not end well. The man is ratcheting up his cynical election fraud claims. Not only is election fraud not an issue, the overly simplistic example of a person voting 5 or 10 times is ridiculous. Given Trump supporter behavior at his rallies, it is easy to imagine these observers taking things too far. This is all horrible for our civil society. Democracy mustn't be allowed to devolve due to one person's demagoguery. The cynicical rampin hip of anti-Liberal and anti-Obama hate over the last years has reached a logical waypoint in Teump, just as many predicted. This can get worse people. There is a reason you don't find many respected historians on the Trump train. In America, we accept the outcome of our elections.
I take you at your word that you won't be voting for Trump and don't believe you are a Trump support but I also think you are making too much light of the implications of Trump is saying. You're right that what Trump was saying regarding Clinton's emails wasn't a call for espionage and also that Trump has no legal authority to do so. Legality though is part of the issue. The fact that Trump has no legal authority to ask for such things is why it was so reckless for him to encourage an illegal activity. Hacking personal emails whether from a government official or a private individual is still illegal. Further he didn't just call for a group of white hat hackers to release Clinton's emails in the name of transparency. He called upon hackers from a country that at best is a strategic rival to the US and has been known to have engaged in cyberwarfare with the US. Further I think you're greatly downplaying the power of rhetoric from someone who does actually have a chance to be the most powerful person in the world. This isn't a stand up comedian or talk radio blowhard but someone who could head up the US executive branch with authority over the federal governments regulatory agencies and military. Also the presidency comes with a very large bully pulpit that does sway a lot of public opinion. It's certainly your right to vote for who you want and if you're in the situation where you decide the issue of USSC justices over rides other concerns that is your right. That said as someone who I've seen make very cogent arguments regarding the dangers of government power I find it surprising you are so dismissive of the threat of someone who is so reckless in not just his rhetoric but also actions possibly leading the most powerful government on Earth.
I'm going to ask something for Stupidmoniker and other Republicans who are downplaying Trump's comments. If Hillary Clinton or another Democrat had said that they hoped that Russian hackers would get Trump's tax returns and release that info would you consider that not such a big deal?
So you believe that Trump was joking when he talked about the Russian hackers? So if he was joking about that when he said it, why did he come out afterwards and claim that he meant that he hoped Russian hackers would turn over the leaked emails to the FBI? It was only after that didn't make the incident go away that he came out and decided he was joking.
This is almost a rhetorical question. FoxNews alone made Hillary's email server seem like treason on its own merits. "Lock her up!" came from somewhere. The biggest threat to democracies is not taking demagoguery seriously when it appears. We take the edge off of pointed comments. We don't consider how seriously followers take the words of leaders. Trump didn't ask hackers from a rival country to find emails. He specifically asked "Russia" to "find" the emails. If Russia finds these emails, Russia would have done so via cyberattacks, which have been ongoing for a long time. That is espionage. Trump is dumb enough to be loose with his words -- as both the hacking comment, the 2nd amendment comment, and the ISIS comments demonstrate. But Trump is currently inflaming the passions, hate, and paranoia of a segment of our society. Historically, you see this political behavior by someone following economic depressions, so Trump is pretty much right on schedule. But, at some point, reasonable people have to stop giving him the benefit of the doubt and bending in the wind to put his comments in the most polite light. His rhetoric is dangerous and directly attacks the foundations of our civil society.
You've got to be certifiable to vote for Trump at this point. He basically just called for his voters to beat up people voting for Hillary. Dude is insane. Trump being insane is something we should all agree on. Democrat, Independent, or Republican, he's pretty dangerous to this country. Hillary is no saint and frankly I find her a bit stiff and boring but I don't worry she going to cause a civil war, recession, or the apocalypse. Even if he is joking, these are things I don't want my president to joke about, especially if he is saying them in a way that crazy people can take him seriously. If you have to have translators explain everything you say every day you're probably not going to be a very good president.
Dear lord. I can't believe you think people actually believe this. Hillary Clinton would have been run out if her own party if she had a three week stretch of all the ridiculous asinine **** Trump has stated at an almost daily basis.
I was asked would I consider it a big deal. I would not. It has absolutely nothing to do with what other people believe.
Of course they would make a big deal about it. They take every word Obama says and blows it up while giving Cheney and Bush free passes on Halliburton's no-bid contracts, the Iraq war and many other things. You know what would have happened if Gore was president on 9/11? They would have used that to pound him on national security with years of hearings and investigations that would have made Benghazi hearings look like a picnic. People who say Trump is bad but Hillary is just as bad or worse are delusional at best.
Wow, Katrina Pierson, Trump's campaign spokeswoman, claimed that Obama led the U.S. into Afghanistan. We entered Afganistan in 2001, and Obama was a state senator at the time. Amazing the lack of knowledge and/or integrity...
Yeah, I saw that. Sounds like she picked the right candidate to work for. Some folks think a lack of knowledge is positive character trait for the candidate.
Pierson already blamed Obama for the 2004 death of Captain Khan. Now she says Obama is responsible for the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. Any other candidate would have fired her, or at least made sure she pays attention before putting her on TV again. Trump, on the other hand, doesn't seem to mind at all.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump">@realDonaldTrump</a> exhausted, frustrated & bewildered by process & why his incendiary approach seems to be sputtering<a href="https://t.co/2qTw6glZqR">https://t.co/2qTw6glZqR</a></p>— Hussein Ibish (@Ibishblog) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ibishblog/status/764654347275808768">August 14, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Hillary Clinton blamed the Orlando ISIS shooting on white people not listening to gay latinos. She blamed YouTube for a terrorist attack on a US embassy. She's made millions from giving speeches to Goldman Sachs (on how to cure cancer, I assume) and says that white people like me need to "recognize" my "privilege". She helped tell a joke that made fun of "colored people" for being slow (lazy). She voted for the Iraq War as senator and helped throw Libya into 5+ years of chaos as Secretary of State. Yeah, I wonder what would happen if she did something on Trump's level.
"Bills went unpaid. They turned off the electricity. Our paychecks started bouncing. I got cancer and they canceled my health coverage. Here’s what it was like to work for Donald Trump’s failed magazine." Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...nfessional-bankrupt-2016-214155#ixzz4HJgfy8fS
