the republicans are backing themselves into the corner because they refuse to do their job. Now the dems will hold it over their heads. Same stupid game.
The Republicans decided to bet the farm that they would win the next election. If you make a gamble like that with great potential rewards in what is pretty much a zero sum game, it is important that losing that gamble have an equally big cost. Leting them welch and get away with changes the cost/benifit equation for not compromising with the other side of the isle. If they have to suffer the consequences, it might make them less inclined to act like children throwing a tantrum in the future. Letting them get Garland at this point simply empowers them to continue being obstructionist dicks in the future. It is a moral imperative that the Dems not let them get away with that **** if they win unless they like Republicans acting like children. In fact, it is important they put their foot down AND make it clear to Republican leadership why they are doing so at every available opportunity, unless the Dems are happy with the current state of disfunction in Washington.
The point of pushing Garland is that the president wants some kind of legacy and for a liberal, the greatest legacy possible is stacking the SCOTUS with liberal justices so they can start to raid the constitution. That's why Obama is still pushing the Garland nomination despite the fact that it is obvious Hillary is going to win the presidency in the upcoming election and would be a in a MUCH better position to get a SCOTUS nominee through congress after the Trump disaster. As of now, Obama has nothing really positive to show for his time in office and I'm sure he wants to change that.
Nothing haaaa. The second worst economic crisis this country has in 80 years. The U.S. has recovered and is doing better than most countries in the world. I could go on. Things like gay people finally being able to get married probably doesn't mean much to people like yourself. I know i know. The world has always been GREAT in the past. And completely sucks now.
The fact that the economy recovered from a bubble during the time he was president isn't really an accomplishment and neither is the SCOTUS ruling on gay marriage. Now I know some people would give him a Nobel Peace Prize merely for being elected, but if you look at Obama's actual contributions....he hasn't done much other than do his best to saddle the country with as much debt as possible while taking credit for the accomplishments of others and pushing bad legislation.
Hell at one point he was even taking credit for the blunders of others (abandonment of Iraq) until he finally realized that it wasn't a good thing.
I feel the same way. But the cat is out of the bag and these type of extremist move started by the GOP will be repeated again.
Well we can certainly hope that future presidents will be more willing to work with the opposition party than this one was, that kind of thing goes a long way towards preventing the kind of deadlock we saw during this presidency. Bill was the kind of politician that would work with the opposition party despite the fact that they impeached him, hopefully Hillary will have even a fraction of that political pragmatism. If so, things should be fine.
Nope. GOP decided to go extremists. It's too late. It's the type of actions that make Trump possible today. And your insistence of blaming of what is a normal standard procedure by the President is an excuse for extremists and an extreme bias against Obama.
The divisiveness caused by the current president is what made something like Trump possible. Of course, another result of that divisiveness is that his fanboys can't see him ever doing wrong no matter what he does, so I'm not expecting you to be able to see that. I would absolutely never expect Obama fanboys to get up off their knees and wipe their chins any time the president comes up in conversation so there's not even a reason to have the conversation. I'll just say that hopefully Hillary does a better job or we'll have more of the same.
Just vague platitudes. I asked this clown before to name one issue that Obama refused to compromise with the GOP and he can't do it.
Surely Bobby can name one specific instance of Obama refusing to compromise. He doesn't strike me as someone who wears a helmet in public.
When did he ever truly agree to compromise? His idea of "compromise" is finding someone, ANYONE from the opposition party to agree with the way he wants to do things and then he declares his plan "bipartisan" and suggests that there was compromise. In fact, any time Republicans asked the president to compromise on anything by agreeing to something he doesn't like in order to get something he likes he calls them "extremists" and "hostage takers". The delusion that the president actually works with the opposition party is ridiculous. Since day one it has been a "do things my way because elections have consequences" and then once there were more elections that changed the congress and the opposition party struck back with the "elections have consequences" line, he claimed they were "hostage takers" and "extremists" for trying to get him to compromise with them. That said, I do understand that a result of his divisiveness is people blindly supporting him in a very "sticking up for my team" sort of way.
You keep repeating this lie as if repetition makes it true. The GOP decided to oppose everything Obama proposed even before he was inaugurated, they have admitted as much, then they proved it repeatedly. The failure to work across the aisle belongs to the GOP, not Obama, who bent over backwards to try and work with Republicans even after it became completely apparent that they would refuse every such effort. I agree that Bill Clinton was more politically knowledgeable and pragmatic, but he also had a Congress that was willing to work with him, Obama has not enjoyed such consideration in the entirety of his presidency.
How is the president being divisive when the opposition tried everything to block everything he proposed?
The divisiveness was caused by racists who got upset that America elected a black man, not by Obama. They are also a large part of Trump's base of support, so you are right that the ones who were divisive after Obama was elected are the ones who made Trump possible. Bullsh!t, even Obama's most ardent supporters have criticisms for him. The fact that you refuse to hear or acknowledge these criticisms doesn't prove they don't exist, it just proves that you choose ignorance over knowledge. Nobody in the real world sees that, only those trapped in the Fox echo chamber see things the way you do. Well, she does have the advantage of not being a black man, so at least the racists won't be frothing at the mouth about that.
I am sure there are quotes when the President said "I am going to work hard to make sure that the GOP congress is a one-term..." oh wait, that was the GOP Speaker of the House that said that about the President. btw, perhaps we can now get back to the subject of this thread... the Supreme Court nominee that the GOP blocked.
He tried repeatedly, over and over. I do like that you simply ignored the questions posed to you about issues the GOP was willing to compromise with Obama on, then continued the lie about Obama being the one who refused to compromise. The point at which it became abundantly clear that the GOP would refuse all attempts at compromise was during the 9 hour long summit on healthcare. After months of writing legislation, debating the merits, and putting together a framework, when the GOP was asked to provide their suggestions for ways to make the legislation better, the entire Republican delegation to a man called for a "clean sheet of paper." They didn't provide any suggestions because they weren't going to contribute to the ACA in any way, they refused to negotiate at all, period. Just like they have done through the entirety of Obama's presidency, as they got together and agreed to do before he was even in office.
