Very possible. The Astros value #1 starters under long term team control at a very, very high level. I wouldn't be completely shocked if the Astros were attempting to get Sale and Quintana for a huge package including some talent already on the Astros big league club. Having a #1 and #2 starter under team control for 4-5 years is massively valuable.
The Sox wanted an arm and a leg for Sale. They priced themselves out of the market. Smart GMs moved on to other options I think there is a balance between keeping your prospects and and using them to acquire major league ready talent. The secret is an organization that can keep replenishing the minor leagues with talented prospects.
Without reading through the thread, Ill say the Beltran deal wasnt the gut punch, it was the Lucroy and Jefress deal that was. Lucroy is under team control for another year after and we really needed another bat and wouldve given us flexibility in the off season at the catcher position. Add to it a late inning relief guy that we seem to be severely lacking, that was Daniels rubbing his man parts on Luhnows forehead. Thats what hurts the most.
The idea that the FO decision to not make any moves was because we were behind a couple of games instead of ahead is total BS! I for one did not want Beltran back but Lucroy would have been a nice addition. The next move the Astros make is hopefully a competent manager and supporting cast.
There's literally 0% chance that Hinch gets fired this off-season unless the team has an historical collapse the final 50 games. Our priorities should be acquiring a true ace either via trade or FA, and bolstering our lineup with a DH and an OF.
all of these things. Fairly simple in the end.. aside from actually finding those players and executing
Why? This is pretty self explanatory (see the hitters under .200 thread). We are five games above .500 and have a lineup full of scrubs along with no real ace. Not to mention this team competed last year which was earlier than everyone including Luhnow though. So I ask, why does he deserve to be fired?
Yeah poor Hinch has been dealt a pretty bad hand with the likes of Altuve, Correa, Springer and the rest of those scrubs.
The team philosophy is very obviously win today; win tomorrow - when you're 30 games under .500, that's easier to balance. Their current situation is far murkier. And it doesn't impede making deals; it merely changes the perspective. Hypothetical example: ahead five games and Bregman is touchable; behind five games and he's probably untouchable as you try to balance the win today/tomorrow philosophy. Unless they had some calculation that devalued Lucroy, I have to think they were in the mix. But these deals aren't made in a one-team vacuum. They have to put together a deal that pleases Milwaukee's *and* surpasses other suitors. That's not always easy to do.
That is *literally* his team - you're suggesting 60+% of your everyday line-up being subpar is the standard? This is a poorly constructed team. It can, as we've seen, be very effective if all the parts are firing at the same time. But, as we've also seen - if they're not... it can be a wake. That's he's (probably) going to coax back-to-back winning seasons out of this roster... I think that's pretty impressive.
Lunhow did say on the radio that they had discussions for most of the players that got traded around the deadline. My guess is teams wanted pitching prospects which have been pretty good so far. I don't see the Lunhow playing too hard if teams wanted hitting prospects that weren't Bregman.
can you imagine of musgrove goes to milly-wok- ay end posts a 12-4 record while lucroy comes here and forgets how to play baseball? i'm sure no one would ever mention it again.
I mean.....yeah, he has. Outside of those 3, and with the injuries to Marwin and Luis, the rest of the team ARE a bunch of scrubs. They literally cannot hit their own weight.
