I'm not taking Trump's side over the Khan family for sure, but he definitely goes beyond just defending his son or Muslims in general. His attacks are very political and I do think it's a bit ridiculous that the media will give him airtime and ask him questions that lead to things like (paraphrasing) "He has no understanding of the Constitution! He cannot be allowed to be commander in chief! He is unfit for the job! He has no honor! Now, I wish we just let it go and let me and my family be at peace to mourn our son and preserve our dignity!" He goes on every show, levies an attack and then says he doesn't want to be part of mudslinging and doesn't understand why Trump won't just let them be at peace. I don't recall Cindy Sheehan throwing bombs at George W Bush and then saying "I don't want to get political."
What I am saying is that Trump's rhetoric cuts to the core of Khan's existence. Sheehan didn't have to face rhetoric that de-legitimized her or her son's loyalty to the country. And the Khan's feel they have something personal on the line in this election. They feel a duty to fight for the country and their son's honor. Of course his attacks are political. And they are personal, too. There is no distinction for Khan. As a targeted minority, he doesn't have that luxury of distinguishing between what is political and what is personal. Minorities face this all the time. Someone says something racist and then when you respond people say you are injecting politics. I am not accusing you of defending or supporting Trump. I am trying to highlight the contradictions and dichotomy targeted minorities must live with and navigate. And those contradictions are what has this one father's fight for personal dignity and recognition take on highly political tones.
I think I may be able to shed some light here. Immigrants come here because they love America - a lot of S Asians are proud of their homes but they want to move back and are more patriotic than they ever express. My parents for instance were extremely excited when they got citizenship and voted for the first time. I remember being surprised as a kid. But you look at Khan and it's even more instent. You take an immigrant whose son goes off to fight in a war for America and then he is lost in combat - you sacrificed your son for this country. Obviously the ultimate sacrifice a parent can make. Then you hear this man Trump talk about a ban of Muslims - a ban on your kind. Think how offensive that would be to you as a patriotic man especially after giving your son to defend their country. That it might stop someone like you from coming here. So those are very upset parents who spoke at the DNC and they spoke their mind. It Trump had never said anything about a Muslim ban, I am sure they would have never been invited to speak and wouldn't care to speak. But he did and they did in return. Then Trump declares war on them and adds more insult to his initial attack by going after his wife and his culture, and suggesting he might be involved with terrorists. If you were in that position, wouldn't you think Trump was unfit to be the POTUS? Would not you do everything in your power to stop this man?
You are mistaking my position to be one that says they shouldn't feel the way they do or shouldn't say it. Neither is the case. I agree with them! My only point is that he is making very political statements and attacks and then says he doesn't want to be dragged into the politics of it. That's ridiculous.
Trump is an idiot and has already lost the election. Having said that...there's so much truth in this.
How is this worthy of a meme? How is this worthy of a repost? It isn't clever or insightful or even relevant. Really? "If".... Well if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle... Seriously you should check yourself for being lame. "Errrr if Pence wuz Muzlim Trump wouldn't pick him as VP but put his brown azz in a camp or deport him!!..har har har!"
Pretty much. The appearance of the Benghazi families were covered in the news during the RNC. They were literally on the RNC stage while all the networks showed their speech-- except for Fox, actually. In fact, I think during the appearance of one of them, the speech was preempted on Fox News because Donald Trump decided to call into Bill O'Reilly. Hillary Clinton was also specifically asked about what Ms. Pat Smith said about her during her recent interview with Chris Wallace. And this is in addition to the Benghazi Congressional hearings and all the news coverage that they got. The reason why the Khan-Trump affair got prolonged coverage is because Donald Trump handled it stupidly. Instead of simply showing sympathy to the family while respectfully disagree with their argument, which would have just let the events run its natural course, Trump started questioning the father's motive and why the mother wasn't allowed to speak. This introduced the topic of "What an ******* Trump is" to the existing Muslim ban discussion. This also provoked the family to respond vociferously and compelled various veteran groups, Republican politicians and others to jump in, which resulted in the "Trump not endorsing McCain & Ryan" news. At that point, the new topics of 1) GOP infighting and 2) Trump Camp in disarray got introduced.
I Don't understand how that approach of just being an attack dog and ignoring points is going to make her convincing. Sounds like she went to Trump University. Yeah I think it's horrible taste. They are repeating lies and also twisting and conflating things.
Of course he is making political statements - against Trump. The man has a right to say someone is unfit to lead after being personally attack. And I don't think he had any intention of going beyond speaking at the DNC convention - most speakers like himself do it out of conviction and aren't trying to become politicians. He was invited to speak, he accepted and clearly made his own speech. I know this because his speech is very much in the style of how South Asians speech when they are angry. Culturally - his delivery and the way he structured it could not have been written by an American. The word choices - everything it was his own. This would have gone no where had Trump simply said he respects what he has lost and his right to express himself. And that while he had not had to sacrifice what Khan did, he still loves his country and wants to change it for the better. That's it - end of story and this thing dies. The man wasn't seeking to become this anti-Trump icon, Trump and the media turned him into one. And Trump didn't just "clarify" his position on banning Muslims, he changed it! It was quite clear during the primaries and changed it for the general. Fact is that he's really just tapping into xenophobic views to get support. That's why people connect with him - because he represents what they feel. That immigrants have taken over America and it needs to stop. No more Muslims, no more Mexicans, and don't empower the blacks. Trump isn't about "Making America Great Again" He's about "Making America White Again" That's what this is all about.
Why does There'sthedagger not care about 230 Marines who lost their lives under Ronald Reagan? Shame on him.
Well stated. All we have to do is compare how Clinton and past presidents have responded in similar situations. Khan's speech would have come and gone had Trump just showed some empathy and chosen not to attack the family. Trump and his appeal to white supremacist has to have every non-white American deeply concerned for their safety and should have every American repudiating this demagoguery. We can go back to team politics after he is defeated.
Partly because I find Megyn Kelly attractive, I applaud her for grilling Ben Carson on his idiotic statement that the Khan should apologize to Trump. http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/08/03/megyn-kelly-presses-carson-saying-khan-family-should-apologize-trump btw, there are rumors that Kelly will leave Fox for CNN.
