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DMO's back problen

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tycoonchip, Aug 1, 2016.

  1. DaDakota

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    He already did that this year - back was fine - what he has to do is get the confidence back - again, that takes time, took Dwight a year, took Ryan Anderson time, lots of guys come back from this fine...just takes time.

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  2. xiki

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    ...because?
     
  3. YOLO

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    it was pretty clear his back was still not fine this year, and yes confidence is also something that plays a huge part.
     
  4. heypartner

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    No ****. That's like saying I wish he was a UFA right now. I'm sure DMo does, too. But Rockets fans should be glad he's an RFA...and we lock him up for more than a year, if you want to keep him. Not to mention signing a QO means he has a no-trade clause.

    Hoping for the quickest route to UFA is generally reserved for player-only-fans who think the player is being disrespected by the team and want to see him play somewhere else.
     
  5. roslolian

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    Why? I thought you were a fan of the guy why'd you want him to become a UFA so the rox lose him for nothing next year?

    Anyway if he's healthy and we can sign Dmo for 3-4 years at a bit higher than the QO I can totally see the Rox making a push for a disgruntled Cousins next year using Anderson and filler.
     
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    Well, I would love for the Rockets to lock him up long term, but they clearly don't want to do that, so for me, just having him sign the QO and come back as an UFA is the best for him and the team - we would still hold his bird rights.

    I mean if he is as healthy as reported, and the Rocks are lowballing him as reported, then why not just sign the QO? No way should he sign the 2 year 16m contract with the 2nd year being a team option, that is not worth it.

    He needs to do whatever is right for himself, and I want a HAPPY player in Houston, not a guy thinking he is worth more. So I am all for any player getting whatever they can.

    Heck we paid Ryan Anderson 20m a year and he has basically been a slightly better Matt Bullard....Dmo has game - he should be compensated accordingly.

    I want him to stay in Houston, but if they really don't want him, then I would be fine with him moving on to a better situation for himself.

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  8. heypartner

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    Punching a live cow?
     
  9. topfive

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    At this point, B'holic is just punching all of us with his neverending Rubio schtick.
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  10. jogo

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    ...except he's not being lowballed. There doesn't seem to be much interest in him in the league. He has a wonky back that is damaged goods until proven that it's not. Why is that hard to understand?
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Wait is he saying we would trade DMo for Rubio? Is that what he is saying?

    Rubio would be a terrible fit with Harden - and if that happens it would confirm that Morey knows nothing about playstyles.

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  12. DaDakota

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    I think this is part of it, and that he is a RFA is the other part. And the teams left with the money are not all that interesting or in contention.

    So, we wait.

    And BTW - I think Morey is playing this perfectly - He has Dmo by the short hairs. Go get a better offer, sign our low ball one, or take the QO.

    That is why I think DMo will bet on himself and take the QO.


    DD
     
  13. heypartner

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    I agree. We want a happy player. But a QO doesn't achieve that anymore than a non-guaranteed 2nd yr offer does.

    A QO kinda defines an unhappy player who is targeting leaving at the end of the year, and we can't even trade him.

    That said, if we are talking about happiness affecting his play (vs his willingness to stay a Rocket), I don't think DMo has the makeup of being an unhappy player. In both scenarios, DMo is going to play his heart out because he loves the game and is a competitor and wants to succeed soooo bad.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    I think a QO player is playing for his next contract - so yeah, we would get the best out of him.

    And I do agree, DMo plays hard because that is who he is.

    Him taking the QO is more a belief that this is how the scenario will play out - he won't want to take a slightly better deal at a crappy team, and the Rocks are offering a slightly better deal for 2 years (2nd being a Team option) - so it really sort of comes down to him betting on himself, and knowing that the cap goes up another 14m next year giving teams another chance to overpay like we did with Anderson - so I could see DMo going for that money

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    The QO gives him the chance to prove that he's worth a bigger contract after that season and he'll get the opportunity to start once Ryan Anderson inevitably gets hurt (it's just what he does). If I'm DMo and I can't get a multi year deal north of 10 mil, I take the QO.
     
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    Well, uh, players playing for their next contract often play for their stats, not the team. See Howard. We could view that both ways. We can also say that if we give him a phat contract, he'll cost, because he got paid.

    This comments are meaningless, either way your play them.

    The are meaningless because that is not in the makeup of Donatas Motiejunas. As you said, you agree that he will play his heart out no matter what, because that is who he is.

    Signing the QO is not something to hope for the Rockets, because it comes with a no-trade clause and it means DMo will bolt next year for nothing.
     
  17. heypartner

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    I agree. I would strongly consider taking the QO, too. So, I'm in agreement with DaDakota and you on that.

    But it is not something we hope for as a Rockets fan, that's my only reason for discussing this.

    Your scenario of him having a stellar season and then staying with the Rockets vs bolting under UFA for greener pastures with huge capspace around the league is an unlikely one, imso. The better he plays, the more likely he is stolen away...not less likely.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Well if they are really worried about that then they could just not lowball him now and give him something like the deal they gave Brewer only adjusted for the new cap. Brewer is a totally worthless player and they gave him 3 years 8 mil a year, adjust that and it's something like 11 mil. I think he'd take that if offered.
     
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  20. heypartner

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    looks like we are duplicating discussion in the "How much will DMo sign for?" thread. Sorry for contributing to that. I'm all for jumping back to the other thread, if you want to continue.
     

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