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Khizr Khan speech at DNC

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 28, 2016.

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  1. bongman

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    Try to educate yourself with history. Start with the inquisition.
     
  2. BigDog63

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    Fear mongering is just the meme of the left. Pointing out the actual problems the country faces is NOT fear mongering, and denying those facts is merely the first step in doing nothing to address them. Trump's speech also was NOT divisive...many of the statistics he mentioned, as an example, were about the economics driving much of the problems within the black community, and how we need to provide equal opportunity for all, not just some. What is so divisive about that?
     
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    what have Democrats done in the past 10 years to ease/hasten the process of immigrating to this country?
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    DACA.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    thats handling illegal immigration, not addressing the process of legal immigration. What have they done to make the process of migrating here easier?
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    A lifetime of work on issues she believes in for public service.
     
  7. Commodore

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    Cloaking your beliefs in mysticism should not shield them from scrutiny or judgement.

    Wouldn't use the word hate, but the widespread practice/adherence to Islam has had a net negative impact on humanity.
     
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    LOL, c'mon, no one is that naive past the age of 21.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Her whole career has been in the public service sector. I'm not saying that I like all of her work, or that she was honest, or that she hasn't profited.

    But it's true with her resume she could have gone to work with huge corporate law firms and cashed in shortly after law school.

    Even if you disagree with how she's handled herself and conducted her life in the public service sector, it's not really possible to deny that's what she's done.
     
  10. justtxyank

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    Well she did sacrifice by going into public service instead of becoming a well paid lawyer, but the sacrifice was brief as within two years of marriage Bill was an elected politician and within 4 years of marriage he was governor.

    However, in fairness to her, she couldn't have known it would play out that way.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    She's one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington, her whole career has been about the acquisition of power and personally profiting off of her government service and the service of her husband. She's not a "true believer" at all, and it's beyond naive to think so, she just uses that nonsense to fool people into giving her power despite her showing nothing but incompetence at every level along the way. She's the embodiment of everything wrong with the government and career politicians as a group.
     
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    Again, I'm not a Hillary fan. I'm not claiming she's a true believer. But there is no denying she could have worked as a corporate lawyer for big bucks after law school, but didn't. She chose to work in the public service sector.

    Like I said, it's fine to not like her or even the work that she did. Doesn't change what happened and what she actually sacrificed. I'm not saying that's worth anyone's vote.

    I was asked what she sacrificed. I posted what she sacrificed.

    Donald Trump has still sacrificed nothing and no-one.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    She was seeking power, you can't really get that in the private sector. On top of that, since her and Bill are so corrupt, they've managed a combined 111 million estimated net worth....how many are going to do that as a corporate lawyer? No doubt she'd have made a ton of money that way, but nowhere near the money she made by acquiring political power and being a corrupt politician.

    She sacrificed literally nothing.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, her work has certainly given her a profit. But it's silly to say that upon graduating law school, they had a plan that they would both take turns being president, and become nationally known so they could leverage that into power and wealth.

    I would call her accumulation of wealth opportunism rather than some master plan she hatched upon graduating from law school.
     
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    I mean, this is the problem with the right. Hillary is no saint, but she isn't the horribly corrupt person any more than 90% of the people in politics or business.

    Look at how Republicans bend over to Trump - that's not corruption? I mean, it's just ridiculous to hold her to the highest standards that even folks like McCain, Bush, and other Republicans don't get held to.

    She was widely praised by Republicans as a senator and secretary of state until it became clear she was going to run for the presidency - then all of a sudden the "She's corrupt" narrative starts getting told.

    It's such b.s.
     
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    They did have a plan of running for office upon graduating...If the presidency hadn't worked out, they'd be on a smaller scale running Arkansas but they could have still made a ton as corrupt politicians even then. As it turned out, she gained more than she possibly could have gotten in the private sector so she sacrificed literally nothing. She's the leach on the government version of Donald Trump.
     
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    That's campaign rhetoric, not really a comparative analysis. Every national politician works for moneyed interest for both campaign financing and personal gain. Speaking fees, board membership and post-service jobs are the standard. That's the way a capitalist republic functions. You would have to brand everyone who takes NRA, Defense Industry, Pharmaceutical, Insurance, Tobacco, and Coal money corrupt.

    I think the system is wrong and they are all corrupt-ed . But 'most corrupt' is probably in the shadows not out in the open. I don't think Ms. Clinton can hide much of anything.
     
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  19. Bobbythegreat

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    She doesn't need to hide anything, every time one of the Clintons gets caught being corrupt there's always a fleet of Democrats out there saying that it's just a vast conspiracy to smear her good name. No matter how many times she gets caught doing the wrong thing, people will embarrass themselves covering for her. It's just how it goes. Democrat partisanship is just THAT strong. I'm sure there's a Republican equivalent....but does that make it any better?

    Anyway, enjoy the coronation if you like, but don't fool yourself into thinking Hillary is an even halfway competent candidate for president. The ONLY reason she has any chance whatsoever of winning is that Trump is even more incompetent.
     
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    Yeah she takes a lot of money from special interest groups, sometimes for personal gain... just like everyone else. Now tell me how she is the most corrupt. Against say with selling out future generations to support the burning of coal, designing legislation to increase the profit margin of needed drugs and medical treatments, supporting health insurance companies when Single Payer is the obvious better program, defending unrestricted assault weapon access with a poorly written 1700's provision, buying 3000 tanks the Army says they don't need etc. etc. etc., all voted on in support of official and personal gain.
     
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