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Donald Trump invites Russia to hack Hillary Clinton

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  1. okierock

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    So did Hillary put country first when she place classified information on her personal server?

    Hillary put Hillary first which is what she has always done and will continue to do.

    Remember that you don't have to vote for either of them....
     
  2. ivanyy2000

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    Trump opened his big mouth trying to be funny and talked smack on Hillary.

    Sometimes it is much better off just shutting up and watching your opponent and her party get the spotlight and get embarrassed by scandals again and again.

    If Trump knew when to keep his mouth shut, he would have led by at least 10 points right now. He couldn't because he is himself a buffoon.

    Again, America is screwed with either of these two candidates. Good luck for all of us.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    What are you talking about? Obama got Putin to do exactly what he wanted them to do in Syria minus targeting locations with American personnel there.

    Anyone doing that kind of thing, isn't someone who should be our ally. Anyone who is militarily aggressive in attacking the Crimea, Ukraine etc. shouldn't be our ally. Anyone who has had political rivals killed, jailed, etc. shouldn't be our biggest ally.

    If you don't understand why Putin isn't a big ally, then please do some research. Here are some places you can start.

    Putin rival imprisoned for 5 years - http://www.thewire.com/global/2013/07/alexey-navalny-vladmir-putin-given-5-years-prison/67318/

    If that's okay with you, I guess Hugo Chavez was someone you identified with.

    Putin rivals who have all been assassinated
    http://news.sky.com/story/the-putin-critics-who-have-been-assassinated-10369350

    This is actually worse than anything Chavez did.

    Putin invades Ukraine
    http://www.newsweek.com/putin-ukraine-odessa-gas-rigs-413274

    Not someone we should have as an ally.

    Putin plotted the takeover of the Crimea long before he actually invaded. Russia has annexed it.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31796226

    Putin's expansionist takeover continues in Georgia
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31796226

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sian-troops-scale-ground-invasion-begins.html

    Even Cheney and Bush "alienated" Russia for their actions. What Obama has done with Russia isn't a new policy.

    Putin is not the kind of ally you want.

    Yet despite his murdering of opponents, military aggression, territory annexing and grabbing, Trump talks of allying with this guy? Trump invites them to hack into American computers and influence American elections. Trump announces he won't back long standing American allies against Russian aggression?

    Trump is abandoning U.S. allies. He's announcing to the world including Putin.

    He claimed today that he would look into whether it's a bad idea for Russia to invade and annex Crimea.

    Really? He doesn't know?

    I'm kind of shocked that you didn't know, but it's totally understandable. You aren't running for the office that would make you the leader of the free world.
     
  4. Big MAK

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    Talk about beating a dead horse...

    Only thing people seem to talk about is this and the other matter. Mistakes were made; none of which are red lights as to why she shouldn't be President. Now, if we look at the red lights about Trump...
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Well to be fair, Trump has an advisor in his inner circle that actually supported Putin invading Crimea as a fair response for us meddling in Ukraine.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    That's true. Trump has advisors that show a lot of support for Putin and his allies.

    Us meddling in the Ukraine was an unsuccessful attempt to keep Russia from aggressively invading and taking over the Ukraine.
     
  7. Granville

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    Wait till the rest of the facts come in on Clinton. It's pretty obvious she hid government emails as the FBI found some she didn't turn over. It's been proven she lied during an FBI in investigation too. Getting caught lying to the public is a red light
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Trump lies to the public all the time. He's only been in politics for a short time, and his list of lies to the public is already HUGE
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    Hmm, let see... last night the excuse was "Well, he said it, but he was only trying to help the FBI get the hacked emails." He gets pounded in the press, by the Democrat candidates and by members of his own party, and now the new story is he was "just kidding."

    Yea... I believe it... :rolleyes:
     
  10. Aceshigh7

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    Russia had every right to enter the Ukraine, at the request of the legitimate Ukrainian government. By all rights, Viktor Yanukovych is still the lawful president of the Ukraine and the current government led by Poroshenko is unlawful.

    Obama picked the wrong side in this conflict just like he does in nearly every other.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Well I do see it as "screwed either way", but yeah, I think Trump is worse.


    That said, never underestimate the comedic value of a local 7th grader playing QB for an NFL team. Of course, much like with Trump as president, the comedy would end once people start dying.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    The Ukrainian govt. supported by Russia is nothing but a puppet to Putin. I guessed you missed how the Soviet Union and eastern bloc worked.

    Of course Putin initially lied about Russia's actions as well. The U.S. was completely correct in opposing Putin.

    Of course that's only one of several reasons why Putin shouldn't be a strong ally of the U.S.

    We can add another to the list.

    Putin is also aiding and supporting a dictator who used chemical weapons on his own civilians.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/world/europe/syria-united-nations.html?_r=0

    It says something that you and Trump advocate a strong alliance with someone like that.
     
  13. Aceshigh7

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    The Ukrainian government supported by Russia was lawfully elected by the citizens of the Ukraine in open elections.

    Just because the US supported a rebellious, violent coup and Russia didn't does not change the facts that those in power now are there because of a forced overthrow of the government, while the lawfully elected president was forced into exile in Russia.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    What free elections? You mean the ones where people in part of the Ukraine weren't allowed to vote, because Russia had already occupied it and annexed it away from the rest of the Ukraine?

    Those are free elections?!?!?!?!?!?!? LOL

    You understand that the Russian army even removed their Russian insignia's when they invaded. They broke international law, and were sanctioned for their violation.
     
  15. Aceshigh7

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    What the hell are you talking about?

    Viktor Yanukovych was lawfully elected in 2009. There were no Russian troops in the Ukraine in 2009 save for the naval attachment in Crimea.

    Yanukovych was elected by the Ukrainian people in 2009. Was sworn in in 2010, and was unlawfully overthrown by a group of rebels with the tacit support of the U.S in 2014.

    The current Ukrainian government is not legitimate. Yanokovych should have lawfully never been deposed.
     
  16. CometsWin

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    What the ****? LOL

    Comrade Trump has no contempt for an old Commie KGB agent that invaded Ukraine, stole Crimea, and has reporters disappeared. You just gave credit to Russia for propping up a dictator and murdering civilians.

    Trump voter, not racist, very insightful, making the case for a misunderstood Russia.

    You're really sick dude.
     
  17. Blake

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    That makes her dishonesty okay? :rolleyes:

    **** we are screwed either way
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    I was asking which election you mentioned. There was another election that was going to happen in 2014. That's when the Russians invaded to prevent an election that would be contrary to its wishes.

    In 2015, however Yanukovych was officially removed from his presidential duties. He is no longer the rightful democratically elected leader. No matter whether you believe him being driven from office was wrong or not.

    In addition Ukraine is only one of several incidents by Putin and Russia that show they are unfit allies for the United States.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    I have never said Hillary's dishonesty is okay. It's just that if we can all agree that they are both dishonest, She would still be a much better leader of the nation than Trump based on a litany of other issues.

    Even though I believe that, I have no intention of voting for her.
     
  20. Granville

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    You know I was referring to lying to the public about the criminal investigation. 67% of Americans think Hillary is dishonest. That's far more than think the same of Trump. Give it up already
     

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