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Cartoon removed 2 yrs from air date after fear muslims would attack

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  1. Honey Bear

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36900310

    Moderate muslims continue to succeed in causing the civilized world to fear for their lives when discussing Islam.

    They crave the power it gives them. This is what leads to weekly acts of terrorism and the imability of free speech in muslim communities in the west. There's no possibility of accurate , or realistic, self examinations.

    No one finds it easier to kill than the brainwashed.

    These are "moderate" groups we talkin' bout - not terrorists.
     
  2. sirbaihu

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    I think YOU are afraid for your life. I'm not.
     
  3. Roc Paint

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    I say F Mohammed! :eek:

    I promise I will never go out on my knees.
     
  4. Nook

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    Honestly .... Too bad. It shouldn't have been pulled, we have bigger concerns.
     
  5. Nook

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    Yeah.... Well ....
     
  6. shastarocket

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    I don't know why you are being overly aggressive all of a sudden, but it's pretty disappointing
     
  7. Honey Bear

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    I don't fear snakes, but I sure as hell don't wanna live with em.

    I'm showing you the trends that lead to calamities, and why things are, the way they are.

    Forecasting trends is pretty universal . . . It why I made my first mil at 22, and you sit at a desk all day for pennies.
     
  8. sirbaihu

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    That's an interesting comparison, because I bet you don't live with snakes or Brits. So, what are you afraid of again?

    What calamity are you thinking of?

    Did you ever think how this kind of statement only makes you look stupid if you're wrong?

     
  9. durvasa

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    The quote says: "Aggressive measures were taken by Muslim organizations after an illegible page with Arabic on it, in the cartoon, was perceived as a threat."

    But that sentence seems to be missing from the page in the link.

    If it originally appeared in the article, I wonder what "aggressive measures" its referring to.
     
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    :eek: Outstanding work, durvasa!

    Did HoneyBear pull a Melania?
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Does it really matter?

    The real issue is that Muslims are DEMANDING that everyone caters to their sensibilities.

    And that there is a real threat if people don't comply, everyone knows at the latest after the attempted murder of the Danish cartoonist - and it got worse with the Charlie Hebdo murders. There were also the South Park threats.

    Making a fuss over some page from a stupid old book glorifying a pedophile warlord being in a cartoon for a split second?

    Yep, that sounds like Muslims.

    It's all a power game.

    And idiots who cater to that have no spine.
     
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    I personally don't have anything against Mohammed the prophet. I said F'em to get a rise out of radical Muslims.
     
  13. sirbaihu

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    Well it does matter if HoneyBear is claiming his own words were published by the BBC. . . .
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    Who cares, that is not the issue addressed in the thread.

    Everyone knows about the Charlie Hebdo murders and the attack on the Danish cartoonist.

    Instead of being ashamed about these and shutting the hell up with their stupid demands to the rest of the world, Muslims are still whining and complaining about silly cartoons.

    That alone should show you that it's not just a few terrorists. They are executing what millions and millions of Muslims approve of - suppression of freedom of speech through murder or threatened murder or constant whining.
     
  15. durvasa

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    Sure it matters, if the issue here is how much of a fuss they were making and how threatening they were actually being.

    And, I don't blame any Muslims for being offended that an animator thought it a good idea to have a character, for no particular reason, step on and slip over page from their sacred text. It would appear that the very intent of such a scene is to deliver an anti-Muslim message, unless we choose to believe their story that they just randomly pulled a page of text and it happened to be from the Quran.

    I would similarly expect protests from some Jewish groups if it was a page from the Torah, or from Hindu groups if it was a page from the Bhagavad Gita.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    Did Hindu groups kill the Charlie Hebdo journalists? Did Jewish groups try to kill a Danish cartoonist?

    Intimidation works over a series of events.
     
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    I'm saying the reaction is understandable in this instance, unless there were (as the OP implied) threats of violence and retaliation. The reaction in this case, at least from what was reported in the article, is no different than what I'd expect from any other religious group.

    Note: I'm not arguing that Muslims aren't especially sensitive when it comes to perceived insults to their religious faith. I think they are. I just don't think this story really makes that point.
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

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    What if the BBC article was ALSO edited, in order to not hurt Muslims' feelings?

    You cannot separate "this instance" from other instances.

    If the Mafia killed the restaurant owner next to your restaurant and then they come and want "protection money", if they then don't pull their guns, does it matter? Do they still need to pull their guns?

    Muslims should be ESPECIALLY ashamed and careful to not make demands regarding cartoons after what happened at Charlie Hebdo. How in the world does it make any difference to their lives if there is a page with whatever text on it in a freaking cartoon for 2 seconds?

    It's not about that.

    It's about power and intimidation. They don't even need to explicitly threaten anymore. Weaklings like these Channel 5 people already bow down, Dhimmi style, without explicit threats.
     
  19. durvasa

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    That is possible, sure. Or maybe the sentence originally appeared, but without any evidence to back it up, so an editor removed it.

    I believe in holding everyone to the same standard. The fact that too many Muslims horrifically overreact (Charlie Hebdo, Danish cartoons) does not mean that all Muslims must refrain from just reacting as we would expect any normal, devout person to react.
     
  20. Honey Bear

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    I'm not liable for every word news outlets put on their pages and the changes they make to keep things neutral:

    It's a main article on the front page now.

    2 years after the cartoon airs and an accidental page blows by the screen, the "Muslim Council of Britain" made sure to not only get it taken down, but get the guy/company fired whoever used it to denote religious scripture. And hey . . . if he gets shot at, he had it coming.

    You really think people with this mentality can co-exist with the peaceful world? Do muslims deserve to play the victim and be catered to when at their core - they're violent bullies of free speech, laughter, freedom? It's not hard to see why the Middle East has been a slaughterhouse since the inception of Islam.

    Curious about your thoughts on the article below, since I assume most people live in Texas. What other ideology has moderates that would justify death from a cartoon as . . . "poking the bear"? Moderate extremism isn't all hidden in a cave in Iraq.

    It's right down the street, homie.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/03/us/mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/

    These are the chain of actions that cause moderates to do extreme things. . The ignorance by yes-men, such as yourself, is appalling.
     

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