Quintana is probably a #2 starter but he is very underrated and he is extremely consistent. He is only 27, and his stuff should age well... Signed through 2020 at a very low rate. He would be an excellent addition to the Astros rotation. He would be expensive but would not cost Bregman.
Reading the threads on r/Baseball, Sale sounds like a nut-job. Maybe we should look in another direction. This was called "Chris Sale temper tantrum" http://i.imgur.com/luC3rUc.gifv
That's just it Quintana is very good. Mid to low 3's ERA all 5 of his mlb years, right at 200 innings the last 3 years and on that pace again this year. A good, solid #2/3 starter So how much do you give up for that? I don't even discuss Bregman unless i'm getting a #1. Do you move multiple guys, including a Martes/Reed in a deal for him? Cause either of those guys have higher upsides than Quintana, although either could bust. Quintana is also controlled for 4 years at 10 million per or less, so the contract is very good. If something like Musgrove, Fisher, Daz and P Tucker would get him, i'd be all in...I don't think that does it in the current trading environment though
I would think it would take Bregman and Reed to get into the conversation for Quintana. FA market is weak next year, lots of teams need starting pitching.
Bregman is an untouchable for me...the guy is a stud... And adding him to the core of Springer, Altuve, and Correa is just too powerful to let go. I'm okay with dealing pretty much anyone else we have in the minors.
You might be right, but if you are then i'm totally out on Quintana. If i'm moving Bregman and Reed, it needs to be someone that I could put out there in game 7 of a playoff series and feel like i'm a huge favorite. Quintana is good, but he isn't that
Im watching VV pitch and looked up his stats. Sigh... We would be set going into this trade deadline had we just kept him and never traded for giles. He wouldve been nice in the rotation this year.
Outside of Baumgartner with the Giants, which World Series winners in the last decade have had a sure fire lock down ace? Quintana is worth it and if they want Bregman, that just means there isn't much else they would get. All the posturing is from the White Sox right now. They aren't compelled to trade but at somepoint their rebuild needs to start.
I could see the Astros moving Peacock, Fields, and Singleton to create 40 man space for Hoyt, Musgrove, and Bregman. Unless Sale is really available, there aren't for sure better upgrades than what the Astros could bring up internally.
Cool, there are many ways to win a championship. The teams that win it without the lock down ace, might need guys like what Bregman could become in their lineup I'm just saying that personally, I wouldn't move Bregman unless we were getting a lock down ace
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/h...what-it-takes-to-pull-off-a-chris-sale-trade/ CBS Sports proposing Bregman, Musgrove, Moran and LMJ for Sale.
Absolutely horrible take on Astros. If McCullers was healthy all season and pitched the way he has this season, he'd be a Cy Young candidate despite the walks. No chance Astros move him to pen any time soon. The Angels might be closer accepting that package for Trout than Astros would be to accepting only Sale. Maybe that's an overstatement. Maybe.
If Astros have to throw in mccullers in this guy's opinion then red Sox need to put bogaerts in there and Dodgers need to toss seager in the mix. If mccullers was magically back 8n AAA and a prospect again, he would be the number one prospect in baseball knowing what we know now. Bregman is considered 5he top prospect in baseball by some right now. So we have to give up the top two prospects in baseball essentially. Just a horrible proposal.
Some writers really should just stick to doing game write-ups. That proposal might be the dumbest thing I've read all year, and that's saying something.