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Donatas Motiejunas now a restricted free agent, no qualifying offer for Terrence Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by treyk3, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. opticon

    opticon Member

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    We have full Bird Rights on DMO. We can go over the cap to retain him.
    The Question how far are they will to go and how many years are they will to commit.
     
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  2. ThatBoyNick

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    That's right, for a second I thought we had to maintain Dmo's cap hold to re-sign him, but his cap hold just restricts us from using that cap space on signing other free agents, we can sign Nene because it's with the room exception and not actual cap space. My bad sorry for the confusion.
     
  3. coachbadlee

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    Nene signing is a done deal. He was formally introduced yesterday.
     
  4. coachbadlee

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    I don't think Dmo is going to make it back.
     
  5. ThatBoyNick

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    I was corrected by opticon. Neither Nene or Onuaku's restrict us from bringing Motiejunas back.

    In fact, I think Nene's signing makes it all the more likely we re-sign or sigh and trade Motiejunas. If we plan on letting Dmo walked, we could have renounced him, had over 5 million to spend on a free agent, and then signed Nene after.

    Instead, by already signing Nene, if we were to let Dmo walk now, we would only have 2.9 million in cap left. I don't see why Morey would shoot him self in the foot like that.
     
  6. Mav-Hater

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    Just a couple questions .........Didn't Howard lead all NBA centers in offensive touches last year by a wide margin? Pretty sure that is an undisputed fact.

    So how did Howard lead the league in offensive touches at his position while being frozen out by Harden?

    Did Horford play center in Atlanta? Millsap was PF so Horford was the 5.

    Isn't Howard going from being "Frozen out" in Houston to a place where their center got less touches than he did but their center is viewed to have been more involved and better offensively?

    Is it possible Horford was more efficient with his touches than Howard?

    Have you ever played at the park with that guy that you cringe when he touches the ball for fear he might shoot the ball and you pray that he doesn't? Naturally, you kind of avoid throwing that guy the ball yet that very same guy led the NBA in offensive touches while being frozen out of the offense. Just a few questions about your theory
     
  7. ROXTXIA

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    It still feels as if DMo is going to be a sign-and-trade. Don't know where, with whom, for whom. Just seems that way. Other moves seem to have pushed the need for DMo aside.

    Not to upset DD or Plowman, mind you. :)

    Who knows, maybe DMo will be a Rocket for another ten years. (Well, nobody is, anymore, so that isn't happening.)
     
  8. heypartner

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    We've never wanted to renounce DMo. So that statement isn't saying much. DMo's negotiations are not related to Nene. It is Onuaku that was causing a delay, as we needed capspace for him, not so for Nene and DMo.

    We established this a few pages ago.

    Nene is going to the Olympics. When he agreed to sign with us (a week ago or whenever), it was on the condition that we would finalize the deal prior to him leaving. Morey first needed time to sign Onuaku, and waiting until the Summer League was over. It took just a couple of days...and Morey fulfilled his obligation to sign Nene.

    Had we not signed Nene, he could have bolted and signed with someone else.
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    This is what I'm saying.
     
  10. heypartner

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    crash5179 and BimaThug first pointed out that Onuaku would delay a DMo signing. I then suggested the delay would also be related to the Summer League. As it now does appear Morey (and/or the agents) didn't want to do any rookie contract negotiations during the SL showcase.

    As soon as SL was over, we get the interview from Berman where DMo says his agents resumed talkes "two days ago." I expect a signing this week, if Morey and D'Antoni are true to their word on July 1st meetings with DMo. If not, Morey has decided to apply the Carl Landry treatment...and is digging in his heals insisting on an offer sheet first.

    Also, assuming DMo's agents has been negotiating for offer sheets, Morey might get presented with one, the delay being that the July 1st meeting was partly to ask DMo to wait for us to spend all capspace before presenting an offer for us to match.
     
  11. heypartner

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    In a nutshell, we all assumed Parsons would wait for us to sign other FAs prior to presenting an offer sheet. Morey learned his lesson, so gave a better presentation to DMo to do us a solid, and thus also make the team better for DMo.

    DMo seems more of a stand-up guy than the weasel Parsons, so this delay to help us spend capspace is no different than guys like Ginobody waiting. It all makes sense...so far. But not for too much longer, now that we spent our last capspace on Onuaku....and no longer have a reason to wait.
     
  12. wekko368

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    There's no way that he had more touches than DeMarcus Cousins.
     
  13. Mav-Hater

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    I didn't make that up. That's a fact from the NBA. Cousins actually scored the ball when he touched it
     
  14. wekko368

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    Sorry, but no. Look at the stats for Howard and Cousins. There's no way your stat is accurate.
     
  15. YOLO

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    lol no. yet another person who is fooled by cousins
     
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    Yes, but Howard is willing to do whatever it takes now. He will be content with less post touches and more pnr! Not like we all haven't heard that before :rolleyes:
     
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    Not arguing your point but can you imagine giving the ball to Howard and have him face the basket? He'll end up having to post up regardless how he gets the ball and is looking to score.
     
  20. Mav-Hater

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    That's like saying Steph Curry led the league in touches behind the 3 point line but that doesn't count as scoring chances. You lead the league in post touches, you should lead the league in post scoring. I'm not sure but did Steph lead the league in 3 point scoring?
     

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