Donatas Motiejunas now a restricted free agent, no qualifying offer for Terrence Jones

The team this upcoming season should be lots of fun to watch, Les will finally be very happy. Hopefully MDA and the team listens to Bzdelik .

 

Just because Harrell can only play the 4, doesn't mean he is ahead of Ariza on the depth chart of 4s.

As for resting Ariza, I agree we should drop Ariza by 3-5 mpg. But I'm expecting Gordon, Beas and Anderson to get a lot of time at the "three," as main source of rest for Ariza, which allows Ariza at the 4 lineups to still persist some....certainly more than putting Harrell there with "all this depth."

I also find it easy to get DMo his 26-28 mpg under D'Antoni.

Why are you so rigid in your thinking when you know D'Antoni is coming? Get used to position-less basketball. Should we expect ad nauseum arguments from you saying "so and so is NOT a 4" or "so and so is NOT a 3".

 

I'm completely against Beasley playing at all because he should be no better than 4th string at any position. Anyway, we'll see what happens but I think going with lineups that can't stop D league teams from scoring at will is a bad idea.

 

I would love to see DMo resigned to a team friendly deal but it might be in our best interest to seek out a sign and trade deal.

Here are a few options that I think could make sense to both teams:

Amir Johnson and Bos 2017 top 10 protected 1st for DMo

Dragic for DMo and 2017 1st top 10 protected

Spitter and 2017 1st top 10 protected for DMo

Taj Gibson and 2nd for DMo

Rubio for DMo and 2017 top 10 protected 1st

Tyreke Evans for DMo

Maurice Harkless SNT for DMo

Thoughts?

 

The ones I like are Taj Gibson, Dragic, and maybe Moe Harkless. All the others, not so much Amir, either don't fit or won't be traded.

 

That's a reason Ariza's minutes might not go down. Because he is a true 3 and D guy. Like when other teams try to roll out the new fad small-ball lineups, D'Antoni can match them with Ariza at 4 (if he doesn't respond BIG), since he'll have a nice defensive match-up (almost by definition).

So, don't contradict yourself this year by saying "Ariza's minutes must go DOWN" and "Where's the defense when we go small?"

Just not understanding why you are trying so hard to pencil out Ariza's minutes, based upon presumed 4/5 depth in a small-ball world.

 

Ariza playing means nothing if he's out there with Gordon, Harden, and Anderson. Even if Capela is the 5th on the court, you can't play 2 on 5 and have positive results all that often.

 

Didn't MDA in a recent interview talk about how's he going to play Ariza at the 4? Arizas minutes won't be going down

 

With KJ, Dekker, Brewer, and maybe Beasley battling for back 3 minutes, I'm not convinced Ariza's minutes will even go down because he is too important to the team with reliable D and capable 3P shooting, along with the small ball.

 

Even if D-Mo comes back, that bench is going to suffer on perimeter D, spacing on O, and probably very little playmakers(despite passing).

 

A lineup of Harden, Gordon, Ariza, Anderson and Capela/Nene will be featured a LOT. Hell, that might be the #1 minutes lineup. Get used to it. Don't argue with me about it. Find some kid to vent to.

Hell, why not just start a thread asking whether we should ever play Harden, Gordon and Anderson together...it deserves it's own thread.

 

The signing of Nene tells us several things:

1. DMo is not going to take the qualifying offer. If there were that possibility we would have waited on Nene in favor of possibly using the extra cap space to sign someone else. DMo is negotiating a big contact either with us or in a sign-and-trade elsewhere.

2a. DMO is not going to be renounced (unless it was done before the Nene signing and hasn't been deceminated to the public yet).

2b. (Not likely) If perchance DMo was renonced prior to Nene signing, to let him sign with the team of his choosing, then we have a trade already agreed to with that team involving other players. (Not likely)

3. We are not going to go under the cap substantially if at all in trades. If we do go under the cap it will be by a little and will generate a rather large TPE that we valued more than the Room MLE.

4. We have most likely already agreed in principle to a trade(s) that involves more salary incoming then what we take off the books in outgoing salary and cap hold.



There is no reason to sign Nene at this point unless:

1. We have already determined we are going to be staying over the cap with agreed to trade deals for DMo/others that keeps us above the cap.

Or

2. We have a trade agreed to that generates a big TPE that we would lose if we waited to sign Nene with cap space created by a salary reducing cap room creating trade and we value that TPE more than the Room MLE.

Or

3. We are keeping DMO on a large long-term deal that gives us no chance to get under the cap in trade and we have no big trades imminent.

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I know this is confusing but follow the logic. DMO is most likely going to be signed and traded. (BKN, MIN, ATL, DEN, PHX the top most likely destinations. )

 

Uh, Nene is going to the Olympics. He needed to be signed now. He probably backs out if Morey breaks his promise to sign him before the Olympics, and signs with someone else.

 

Even more reason to wait to sign him. He goes to Olympics and gets hurt then we're not stuck. Nene signing is pointing towards imminent resolution of DMo and most likely a huge trade (s).

 

Laughable, would you, as an oft-injured big man from Brazil getting up there in age, wait until after the Olympics to sign a 2.9 mil contract that will not be waiting for you if you get hurt?

 

bbholic's logic, again

 

But, Nene would sign with someone else.

You sound like Okuanu's agent, actually.

Okuanu's Agent: "We are perfectly fine waiting to see if you refuse to match DMo or, hell, we might get lucky and he signs the QO. We'll be here all summer."

Morey: "No, I must sign Nene now, before the Olympics. If I do that, you'll lose your 3 yrs. We have to deal now."

Okuanu's Agent: "Ok, we'll take what's left of the cap room, if you give us a 3rd year fully guaranteed."​

If DMo signs big this week, it was because he agreed to wait until after Okuanu signed -- independent of Nene -- as expecting DMo to sign for $4.4m to maximum capspace is not something that could happen without waiting him out, likely all summer.

There is no logical implication between Nene signing and DMo signing a big contract. The only thing we know is if DMo doesn't sign a big contract with Rockets now ($10-15m/yr range, as many have always expected), then there never was such a promise on the table on July 1st.

If DMo does sign a big contract now, it is because he had to wait on Nanu.

 

Can we sign and trade him along with brewer for Greg Monroe and a contract they don't want?

 

What is this logic you guys speak of?

 

Logic of a "sauce"