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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. fchowd0311

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    Trump has said many things that are 'beyond the pale' for most rational thinkers. The statement he made about blacks IF TRUE is 'beyond the pale' for even most conservatives.

    Conservatives want to hide their racism. They want to keep it implicit so they can scold frustrated black men that they are faking their grievances. They know they lose all semblance of respect once that racism becomes jcee15 level explicit.
     
  2. justtxyank

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    You can't prove whether he said the quote. It was published in a tell all book by a disgruntled employee that Trump said he only interacted with a few times. He did however say that the stuff the guy said about him was "probably true" but he wasn't responding directly to a question about that quote.
     
  3. Rashmon

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    Agreed. Though there is plenty of drivel directly from the Donald's pie-hole to lend credence.
     
  4. RocketsLegend

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    I imagine Sweet Lou's thinking represents a large portion of Anti-Trump people. The believe everything they read without facts and run with it because it fits their narrative. You won't believe how many times I heard some idiot liberal say " but Trump gonna deport all muslims". It's so frustrating having to deal with these uneducated buffoons.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    Well given the fact that Trump has a long history of suing people for libel for far less worse accusations than EXPLICIT racism and hasn't sued this guy kinda makes his claim a tad bit more credible.
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    No.. He wants to BAN all Muslim immigration. That's what people tell you and that's what people are offended by. But to you, banning a group of people because of religion isn't that offense thus you try to lie and strawman us by stating that we keep on believing that Trump wants to deport all Muslims. Nope, he never said that. He did say WORD FOR WORD that he wants to ban all Muslim immigration temporarily. So try to skew these words.
     
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    There are people that actually believe that Trump wants to deport all muslims. I know because I met a bunch of these people. I have to keep educating them on Trump's immigration policies. It's frustrating because for every 10 people I talk to and tell them Trump's plan, there are still 1000's that are ignorant of the subject and spread misinformation.
     
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    Rush Limbaugh- climate change is not a fact

    There have been more wars started under Obama than Bush.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Trump told playboy:

    "the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true" when speaking about O'Donnell's book generally.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._blacks_inherent_laziness_1991_book_says.html


    The fact that you support this slimeball of a man says enough.
     
  11. RocketsLegend

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    In a statement to the Washington Examiner media desk, Trump said the book with the alleged quote was "written by a fired and totally disgruntled employee who was terrible at the job he did and who I hardly knew."

    Sounds to me someone was just trying sell books. Next!
     
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    So, the man who has no interest in actually governing (as evidenced by his offer to make John Kasich "the most powerful VP of all time") is getting foreign policy advice from a man who enthusiastically believes that a former Secretary of State, who has not been charged with a crime, should be killed.

    What the **** is happening in this country.
     
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    He said that the guy was terrible and he hardly knew him...but that what he said was probably true.

    He bashed the person as an individual but not only did he not deny anything the guy said, he affirmed that at least in a general sense, the guy was accurate.
     
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    Trump May be a slimeball but at least he isn't directly responsible for destroying thousands upon thousands of black family's .Its just astounding that she has so much support in the black community .Doesn't anyone remember when she referred to black youth as super predators "who must be brought to heel" ? Those sound like the words that could have come straight out of the mouth of a slave master
     
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    Donald Trump has been accused by the Department of Justice of unfairly discriminating against black families in housing.
     
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    I know what will help Americans get jobs and higher wage growth: quadruple the number of H1B visas!
     
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    Look, I'm no fan of the two party system. Clinton is as flawed a candidate as I have ever seen and her constant tone deafness is a source of great frustration.

    But I will vote for her every day and twice on Sundays (better check my ID guys, could be some serious voter fraud going on) because I at least have confidence that she understands how government functions.

    I do not see how you can 1. believe that government is irretrievably broken and 2. think the solution to that problem is Donald ****ing Trump. The man has no concept of Constitutional law, the legislative process or international affairs. Heck, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell's endorsements of him are banking on the probability that he'd be such an ineffectual executive that Congress would have a rubber stamp on legislation sitting in the White House. The same Congress that has never-before-measured levels of unpopularity. If Americans thought they'd be voting for a Congressional dummy to be president, things might look different.

    Because I think that the executive branch should still have some level of influence in our government, I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. She is a flawed candidate and the Democratic Party should be ashamed of its lack of alternatives. We live in an age of hyperbole and most people chanting "Lock her up!" have no idea about other classic eras of corruption in American politics. But somebody who understands how our government works is better than somebody who hosted a b-list television show, was gifted a a golden parachute by his family and has failed at every level of business including the tie rack at Macy's.
     
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    Good post is worth repeating.
     
  20. T_Man

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    She was not a senator at the time and YES she said it was a mistake...

    At the time crime was going crazy, especially murder and people were asking for help.... Now could and should the bill have been revamped? YES know one is denying that... But something had to be done...

    Also the Clinton's have apologized for their mistake.. Trump can't even apologize for a freaking speech.

    T_Man
     

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