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Donatas Motiejunas now a restricted free agent, no qualifying offer for Terrence Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by treyk3, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. danoman

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    I'm not getting a good feeling out of this news.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    So dramatic. You'd be less dramatic if he you could keep up with what the Rockets are doing.

    You act like the Rockets never try and do anything to move the needle which is the opposite of their MO.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    oooh, poor baby, sorry my expectations are higher than yours, but you know, kids like you these days....millennials...sheesh!

    Oh, and pony up some money JR, and support this site....member.....double SHEESH!

    DD
     
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    We won't be matching a low deal.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Nope, the only possible low deal would be a QO+1 PO type of deal...if we are matching it is more than likely over 10m per.

    DD
     
  6. Htownballer38

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    Not going to happen captain. And you of all people should know how Morey gets down. Plus you do remember they traded him to Detroit, so they don't value him like you do DD.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    It is not so much HIM as it is the way we do business that makes me want Morey to be gone - I no longer believe he can build a championship team - and yes, I know Le$ is the biggest problem - if he would sell the team, I would be ecstatic.

    Honestly, I am surprised Morey has not quit, I mean if D'Antoni was not his pick he should have bailed like Adelman did when Finch was forced on him by Morey.

    DD
     
  8. HR Dept

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    I see know reason to offer Motiejunas a contract until you see what the market is willing to pay him. Especially for a player like him that is surrounded by question marks. Wait for him to sign an offer, then match it if you think its fair value. If not, then he walks.

    If you're worried about the Rockets making moves that will move the needle, then the Motiejunas contract situation should be pretty low on your list of concerns. In other words, Motiejunas ain't moving no needles.
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    Actually losing him for nothing moves the needle backwards - you don't let quality rotation level players walk without some return.

    DD
     
  10. coachbadlee

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    Morey getting a taste of his own medicine. I love it.
     
  11. Airdough

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    You can't sign a restricted free agent to a 1+1 deal. It has to be for three years. Anything short of the max annual salary, is likely getting matched.

    Plus why would a team tie up a small amount of cap to just let the Rockets match?
     
  12. dobro1229

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    Hence why THEY TRADED HIM. I think the evidence is there to support the fact that Morey knows this and was wanting to move him when he knew it was unlikely they would want to bring him back and invest in him longterm.

    The Detroit Pistons screwed D-Mo and the Rockets by failing him during his physical.

    Should Morey get blamed for that? Does intention bear no weight on result? I'm not sure. However.... If D-Mo signed long term is in fact a bad investment isn't it better to not buy into the bad investment than to buy now and hope like hell you can sell later? How many great trades have you seen in recent years where the player was signed over market price and the team made great return on their investment? The time to get value for your investment was 6 months ago when by all accounts Morey attempted, and sort of did that.

    Your arguments are made in your own conjectured DD universe and my biggest complaint about your arguments (which are often rooted in some truth) is that you create your own narrative and leave out the entire picture. Just like with the Parsons contract situation (Morey's biggest blunder IMO) you refuse to talk about the Dwight/Fegan negotiations the year before (the ONLY reason why he was allowed out of his deal early) and only talk about the Rockets letting him walk for nothing.

    Dude... its not black and white as you try to paint. There are situations behind every damn move. And while alot of them have ended up in SITUATIONS where we should look damn hard at Morey and possibly criticize, we have to tell the whole story here, or you just will continue to sound like a complainy blabbermouth. Which sucks because you and others have some good points, but it gets drown out by the pursuit of narrative.
     
  13. dmoneybangbang

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    LOL. Well then your expectations are merely silly. I have ponied up money, not everyone cares about titles.

    Do you swim at the 24 hour fitness at William Cannon?

    Like I said, you can't even keep up with the Rockets. We already tried to get something for DMo once already. All Morey can do is be in position to sign and trade.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    I don't think he even keeps up with what he says.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    DaDakota Trump - you wouldn't BELIEVE the HUGE Offer sheets DMO is being presented with - the BEST offer sheets.
     
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    Damn, now I'm starting to feel sorry for him.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    You know why, because a good leader makes the right call regardless of outside pressures. I don't care that he promised Fegan - he should have kept Parsons, and he could have by matching and made the team better, making everyone happy.

    Just make the call that makes the TEAM BETTER.

    Do I blame Detroit? I blame Morey for not locking down a big with a totally unique level skillset last October when DMo was still coming off of injury. Those are the kinds of risks you take, you don't take the ones where there is a completely KNOWN product, that is cowardly team building.

    I did like Anderson and Gordon though, those are risks to take, did not like the money we spent, for 2 often injured players but it is not my money so will happily cheer them on for however many games they play.

    Nene - also good.

    D'Antoni? WTF was that? I mean we have no choice now, and it seemed like Le$ is the main culprit, but if that is the case and he is undermining Morey, then DM should leave and go to a spot where he can prove or disprove his philosophy.

    IMHO, DM is a decent GM who makes good trades for the most part - but his drafting is seriously suspect - and the way he works his own players in RFA is nuts, makes them less loyal, remember Scola talking about feeling betrayed?

    That is what I dislike about Le$ the trader, and Morey the Asset manager.

    I would prefer to have a basketball person making the final call - someone that understands team dynamics and chemistry - but we are stuck for at least one more year hoping for something that almost all of us know is not going to happen.

    We used to be a championship contender, now we are a bunch of cast offs that can play a little - but aren't really a contender and that sucks.

    I have not said that at all.

    Be in NY in September Sam, you ready to meet in person? I know I am.


    DD
     
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  18. Htownballer38

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    Why would you make that risk when dude couldn't play 20 minutes a game consistently? That's not a good business practice. The only reason why you would think so, is because of your big time love for Dmo.

    Elite and Dmo should not be pinned together because he hasn't played elite ball for a year yet.

    We haven't been championship contenders for decades. The year we went to the WCF's, was a fluke. Other than that, we were 1st rounder blunders.

    Now I do agree with him killing the chemistry but last year wasn't the case. He actually kept his core intact. Unfortunately the PLAYERS mainly Howard and Harden destroyed our chemistry with their selfish antics.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    This is what happens when you have weak leadership like Harden, or Tmac. If your best players is not a leader you have to find a solid role player like Battier who is one. Maybe a Mario Elie type, and it was compounded by having chosen McHale 5 years ago, which was a grade A stupid move.

    DD
     
  20. sabesque

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    I totally get love for young players on the come up. It's one of the most rewarding things about being a team-first fan. That BIG jump that Dmo took two seasons ago when he was filling in for dwight was awesome as a fan.

    But I'm also realistic enough to understand if the Rockets and Dmo part ways, especially coming off of back surgery and his last season, plus the economics of the post-ESPN/TNT deal, pre-CBA nba.

    It's super dramatic to use this case to argue that the organization is poorly run, or doomed for failure. That's taking the attachment too far.
     

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