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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. El_Conquistador

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    Setting aside your clear and obvious hatred for whites and religion, it is truly the height of hypocrisy for a Hillary Clinton supporter to question any other candidate's charisma. Hillary is the least charismatic, least natural, most insecure, most stage-managed, most robotic candidate in our lifetimes. I dare say that Hillary Clinton has not had sex with a man in over 30 years. I do believe this is her root problem. If I were a democratic strategist, I would pay a self-disrespecting man a goodly sum to "take one for the team" and clean out those coochie cobwebs.


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  2. eric.81

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    You are a colossal *******.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

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    HO HO HO

    Eric, of 1981, this is legitimate, valuable political advice. Any psychologist will tell you that a woman feels more valued when a man lays with her. There is a validation and acceptance that occurs when this happens. Al Gore would tell you that her sacral chakra needs to be cleared -- as he told his masseuse when sexually assaulting her in his hotel room. It is a true problem that is causing Hillary to be deeply insecure, which then impacts her behavior and ultimately her decision making. Due to these implications, a legitimate case can be made that Hillary's coochie cobwebs are a matter of national security. They represent an existential threat to our way of life.

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  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    God have mercy if Trump wins this thing and they don't control the senate.

    I also think they should deny any nominee until Garland gets a vote.
     
  5. cml750

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    If a sex addict like Bill want go there any more why would any other man?;)
     
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    My previous response remains appropriate. Bless you. :)
     
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    Jesus would be upset at you.
     
  8. ThatBoyNick

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    Dat ass.

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  9. Haymitch

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    We shouldn't give such power to the morbidly obese; it sends the wrong message to our youth.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    I love how conservatives are the ideology of 'personal responsibility' and care very much about 'role models for young children' when this baffon is literally the worst role model in almost every aspect of life for children.

    This man believes he has the healthiest diet in the world.
    http://indy100.independent.co.uk/ar...bout-his-healthy-diet-last-month--bJZ4UpAmC9g
     
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    The interview on 60 minutes with these two is brutally uncomfortable.
     
  13. jo mama

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    it was very odd. it was good to finally see a journalist attempting to hold trump accountable for all the garbage he spews though.

    she had good questions for both of them, but as usual, getting a straight, substantive answer out of trump was like pulling teeth. she would ask pence a question and trump would interrupt and/or answer for him. as usual, hardly any specifics were given, rather we got that f***ing stupid slogan "make america great again" over and over and over again.

    she asked pence what he thinks of trumps statement that POW's are not heroic b/c they were captured and before he could answer trump cut him off and said "its ok...you can answer it mike" and went off before letting him try to answer the question, which he really did not do anyway.

    that combo is just a bad fit. and they seem to disagree on many of trumps key issues, the biggest one being free trade vs. protectionism.
     
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    A Confession of Liberal Intolerance
    Nicholas Kristof

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html?_r=0


    WE progressives believe in diversity, and we want women, blacks, Latinos, gays and Muslims at the table — er, so long as they aren’t conservatives.

    Universities are the bedrock of progressive values, but the one kind of diversity that universities disregard is ideological and religious. We’re fine with people who don’t look like us, as long as they think like us.

    O.K., that’s a little harsh. But consider George Yancey, a sociologist who is black and evangelical.

    “Outside of academia I faced more problems as a black,” he told me. “But inside academia I face more problems as a Christian, and it is not even close.”

    I’ve been thinking about this because on Facebook recently I wondered aloud whether universities stigmatize conservatives and undermine intellectual diversity. The scornful reaction from my fellow liberals proved the point.

    “Much of the ‘conservative’ worldview consists of ideas that are known empirically to be false,” said Carmi.

    “The truth has a liberal slant,” wrote Michelle.

    “Why stop there?” asked Steven. “How about we make faculties more diverse by hiring idiots?”

    Continue reading the main story
    To me, the conversation illuminated primarily liberal arrogance — the implication that conservatives don’t have anything significant to add to the discussion. My Facebook followers have incredible compassion for war victims in South Sudan, for kids who have been trafficked, even for abused chickens, but no obvious empathy for conservative scholars facing discrimination.

    The stakes involve not just fairness to conservatives or evangelical Christians, not just whether progressives will be true to their own values, not just the benefits that come from diversity (and diversity of thought is arguably among the most important kinds), but also the quality of education itself. When perspectives are unrepresented in discussions, when some kinds of thinkers aren’t at the table, classrooms become echo chambers rather than sounding boards — and we all lose.

    Four studies found that the proportion of professors in the humanities who are Republicans ranges between 6 and 11 percent, and in the social sciences between 7 and 9 percent.

    Conservatives can be spotted in the sciences and in economics, but they are virtually an endangered species in fields like anthropology, sociology, history and literature. One study found that only 2 percent of English professors are Republicans (although a large share are independents).

    In contrast, some 18 percent of social scientists say they are Marxist. So it’s easier to find a Marxist in some disciplines than a Republican.

    The scarcity of conservatives seems driven in part by discrimination. One peer-reviewed study found that one-third of social psychologists admitted that if choosing between two equally qualified job candidates, they would be inclined to discriminate against the more conservative candidate.

    Yancey, the black sociologist, who now teaches at the University of North Texas, conducted a survey in which up to 30 percent of academics said that they would be less likely to support a job seeker if they knew that the person was a Republican.

    The discrimination becomes worse if the applicant is an evangelical Christian. According to Yancey’s study, 59 percent of anthropologists and 53 percent of English professors would be less likely to hire someone they found out was an evangelical.

    “Of course there are biases against evangelicals on campuses,” notes Jonathan L. Walton, the Plummer Professor of Christian Morals at Harvard. Walton, a black evangelical, adds that the condescension toward evangelicals echoes the patronizing attitude toward racial minorities: “The same arguments I hear people make about evangelicals sound so familiar to the ways people often describe folk of color, i.e. politically unsophisticated, lacking education, angry, bitter, emotional, poor.”

    A study published in The American Journal of Political Science underscored how powerful political bias can be. In an experiment, Democrats and Republicans were asked to choose a scholarship winner from among (fictitious) finalists, with the experiment tweaked so that applicants sometimes included the president of the Democratic or Republican club, while varying the credentials and race of each. Four-fifths of Democrats and Republicans alike chose a student of their own party to win a scholarship, and discrimination against people of the other party was much greater than discrimination based on race.

    “I am the equivalent of someone who was gay in Mississippi in 1950,” a conservative professor is quoted as saying in “Passing on the Right,” a new book about right-wing faculty members by Jon A. Shields and Joshua M. Dunn Sr. That’s a metaphor that conservative scholars often use, with talk of remaining in the closet early in one’s career and then “coming out” after receiving tenure.

    This bias on campuses creates liberal privilege. A friend is studying for the Law School Admission Test, and the test preparation company she is using offers test-takers a tip: Reading comprehension questions will typically have a liberal slant and a liberal answer.

    Some liberals think that right-wingers self-select away from academic paths in part because they are money-grubbers who prefer more lucrative professions. But that doesn’t explain why there are conservative math professors but not many right-wing anthropologists.

    It’s also liberal poppycock that there aren’t smart conservatives or evangelicals. Richard Posner is a more-or-less conservative who is the most cited legal scholar of all time. With her experience and intellect, Condoleezza Rice would enhance any political science department. Francis Collins is an evangelical Christian and famed geneticist who has led the Human Genome Project and the National Institutes of Health. And if you’re saying that conservatives may be tolerable, but evangelical Christians aren’t — well, are you really saying you would have discriminated against the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.?

    Jonathan Haidt, a centrist social psychologist at New York University, cites data suggesting that the share of conservatives in academia has plunged, and he has started a website, Heterodox Academy, to champion ideological diversity on campuses.

    “Universities are unlike other institutions in that they absolutely require that people challenge each other so that the truth can emerge from limited, biased, flawed individuals,” he says. “If they lose intellectual diversity, or if they develop norms of ‘safety’ that trump challenge, they die. And this is what has been happening since the 1990s.”
    Should universities offer affirmative action for conservatives and evangelicals? I don’t think so, partly because surveys find that conservative scholars themselves oppose the idea. But it’s important to have a frank discussion on campuses about ideological diversity. To me, this seems a liberal blind spot.

    Universities should be a hubbub of the full range of political perspectives from A to Z, not just from V to Z. So maybe we progressives could take a brief break from attacking the other side and more broadly incorporate values that we supposedly cherish — like diversity — in our own dominions.
     
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    You might be the most full-of-**** poster we've ever had.

    I say so, so it must be true.

    If that works for Trump it should work for anyone.
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting Chair Choice. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/60minutes?src=hash">#60minutes</a> <a href="https://t.co/qaNak9O1Kt">pic.twitter.com/qaNak9O1Kt</a></p>&mdash; Laura Barisonzi (@lbaris) <a href="https://twitter.com/lbaris/status/754830808016416768">July 18, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    Would have been much more enlightening to see an unedited version of this interview. I wonder if the impressions gleaned would be the same.

    Having said that, I think the questions were fair, but as often as you say Trump interrupted Pence, I would say the interviewer, Leslie Stahl, was at least as bad at interrupting both when answering. I would also agree with your assertion that Trump dominated the discussion, although given the way the interview was handled...Stahl interviewing them both at the same time...it kind of makes sense Trump would speak more often being at the top of the ticket.

    RE: The Mccain question....Pence did dodge that one. Trump did interrupt, but Pence had a chance to respond. Trump was flat out wrong, and everyone knows it. Made for uncomfortable television...especially for Trump. He needs to apologize for that comment. Pence in a tough position there no quesion.

    RE: The trade question. I disagree with your characterization of Pence's position vis a vis Trumps. Trump wants to re-negotiate NAFTA and other trade treaties. Pence backed that up by stating there are codicils in NAFTA that allow for re-negotiation but haven't been visited since its inception in the mid-nineties. Doesn't seem much difference in their approach from my point of view.
     
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    This is stupid compared to 'Yes, we can' ... how exactly???
     
  19. Dubious

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    Because "make America great again" assumes that America is not great and that it once was great. And what is different about America than when it was great? The assumption again is that it was maybe somewhere in the 50's when women and minorities were restricted in the workplace and in government, when white males ruled the world. It is a subjectively racist and sexist slogan that plays on the false memories of nostalgia.

    It's basically political sloganeering for White Power.
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    Because Trump says it.

    That's automatic qualifier for "X is dumber than Y because".
     

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