Three Baton Rouge police officers shot near BRPD HQ

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I am the most intellectual poster on this BBS. I do not misuse phrases. I am several steps ahead of you. The use of the phrase "GOOD DAY" is a psychological tool intended to alter perception. It is not used as a salutation. I can share no more with you at this time.


GOOD DAY

 

I don't know what happened, hence "maybe".

Without knowing or at least having better evidence than what's turned up so far, I will neither assume the officers committed a murderous act nor assume they were justified in killing him.

 

For sure, but you have to keep in mind the goals of those who are simply against all firearms. You have to watch out what you okay because they'll keep pushing for more till things get ridiculous.

Personally I don't have a problem with reasonable restrictions but you have to be on the lookout for restrictions that will essentially ban firearms. Look at how mar1juana was banned, they didn't outright ban it at first, they just required a tax stamp....that they never issued. They do something similar in some states when it comes to concealed carry laws. They technically allow it, but then never issue the licenses so it's effectively illegal.

IMO that's the problem, when you know the goal is the banning of weapons it makes it hard to compromise because you know one side is looking to take advantage.

 

So both of the recent cop killers were military vets. And this latest one, at least, spent a lot of time on the internet. We all know that's completely unhealthy and crazy-making. (Seriously, though I'm no fine example.)

 

That's what it looked like to me. I'll be honest -- I have a weak constitution for watching videos of people getting shot, so I'm just going off of memory of what I saw in one of the initial videos and I haven't sought to revisit it since then. So, maybe I'm off base in my description of what happened.

What did it look like to you?

 

I said murders. A murder isn't an accident.

Truck murders vs gun murders. Try again, Bobs.

 

Also, they were both in Dallas during the last attack. Was it a copycat, or is there a connection that hasn't been made yet?

 

I was showing lethality, we should be happy that murderers haven't started using them more! The last time a murderer used a lorry to kill people, he took out 80 people! Has any one person ever killed 80 people with an assault rifle?

 

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, firearms were used in 73,505 nonfatal injuries (23.23 per 100,000 U.S. citizens) and 11,208 deaths by homicide (3.5 per 100,000)

Well if trucks were used to kill 80 people a day every other day for an entire year, that would approximately account for the number of gun murders per year in the US. So yeah, you're full of it per your usual.

Perhaps we should require all gun owners to be licensed, to have their weapons inspected, and their weapons insured every year since you folks enjoy making the truck/car vs gun comparison so much.

 

Now are we talking about all guns or "assault rifles"?

Anyway, I know where you stand, you want to make gun ownership as difficult and expensive as possible in order to prevent people from exercising their rights. It's pretty obvious. You anti-civil liberties people are all the same and IMO best ignored.

The reason you can require all of those things for vehicles is because there is no guaranteed right to own or drive a car. There is a guaranteed right to keep and bear arms. I know it makes you sad, but I don't really care.

 

I'm pretty sure I said gun murders. You chose to change that into something different because all you could do is deflect from the facts. You brought up vehicles. You want to compare them to guns then treat them the same. Go get your gun license, your gun liability insurance, and get it inspected every year. Keep bringing up accidental car deaths. Maybe we should start forcing gun manufacturers to put in place the kind of strict safety features and testing that cars have. Keep bringing up the car vs gun argument, I welcome it. Go for it.

You don't care that 12,000 Americans a year are murdered by gun violence because "ma rights". I forgot that you detest people and have no empathy for human life.

I'm pretty sure the right of citizens to live without being murdered at the pull of a trigger is a civil liberty.

Nobody is more pro civil liberty than you Bobs. You are a champion for the rights of people. Over and over again you stand up for little man. LOL Reminds me of that time you said it was okay to murder a million people if the situation called for it.

You're the inadvertent LHutz. DUKE DUKE of Truf!

 

I guess you and I differ on the future, I don't see any way, any how that guns could ever be "banned" in the USofA. Who's gonna enforce it, the highly gun-loving active or ex-military?

Nobody wants your shotguns or hunting rifles. I have said that I despise handguns, so maybe I am in fact the enemy.

Why don't we meet in the middle? What's wrong with licensing of all guns plus mandatory re-education classes (I know you'll love that term) for all handgun permits?

 

All bickering aside, I have never understood the argument against real licensing and training. Even insurance makes a lot of sense to me.

We get "slippery slope" arguments, but nobody took our cars away. Far from. It's still an enormous industry. But deaths by car, per capita, have steadily decreased with the increase of no-nonsense regulations, be it driving tests or seat belts.

 

Ah....so you seek to strip liberty from the people in order to protect them, brilliant. All we have to do is take away everyone's rights and everything will be safe and awesome. That's pretty much a liberal's take on the world and it's adorable.

 

It's government paranoia. They always think the government is a bunny's whiskers away from taking all their guns. These paranoid gun owners want to amass huge arsenals of guns and ammo without the government knowing about it until after the crime has been committed. Everyone is a law abiding citizen until they start mowing down cops with their AR15.

 

Of course, limiting rights isn't stripping them. That's a dumbass argument as many Constitutional rights have limits. Try again Bobs.

LIBERTY! heheh

 

This is what kills me, the only people who could actually "take away people's guns" are basically the same people whose guns would get taken.

I'm out. Who's gonna do it? You?

 

Thinking that things can't happen despite the existence of the desire of some to have it happen is how really bad things happen.

You say no one wants to take away shotguns or rifles, but the VERY first thing that is always targeted is AR's.

As to adding registration and "re-education classes", would you accept those limits on other constitutionally protected rights? Most wouldn't. Would we be better off if people were forced to take courses proving that they could vote intelligently before being allowed to vote? Of course, we would, but you just can't do it.

The argument that things would be better IMO is not relevant. That said, at the state level, if people want restrictions, so be it.

 

Probably not me. I guess the Bernie Sanders millennial army is going to march door to door with their Starbucks in hand confiscating guns as they go.

 

Nobody gets murdered in a voting booth. Damn you are just tossing bad argument after bad argument. It's turrible. TURRIBLE..