Donatas Motiejunas now a restricted free agent, no qualifying offer for Terrence Jones

Just because it takes longer that doesn't mean the remaining RFA won't get their money. There are still teams they can use as leverage with 10s of millions of capspace. But if it comes down to the QO then that can last until Octomber.

 

BWHAHAHA perceived. Come on , if we was that important, they would've locked him up way before now. They quickly locked up Beverley and Brewer last offseason. Now that the definition of they were perceived as an important pieces going forward.

 

You should also consider here that we met with him and talked to him to get him to stay on a small cap hold for a few days while we conducted free agent business. If DMo had signed an offer sheet the first day of free agency it would have thrown a big kink in our off-season planning. So it was important that we entice him enough to stay unsigned.

And there is no way that we didn't already know his free agent value even before free agency starts. These guys (GMs) do too much talking to one another not to know a good approximate free agent market value for their players. No doubt there were even sign and trade discussions between Morey and other GMs regarding DMo ahead of time. That would only be prudent of Morey to do so.

So we find out there is a team or teams willing to take DMo into their cap space on a maximum contract but we control him as a restricted free agent. Morey simply tells them we are going to pay DMo max but we could possibly sign and trade him if the other team(s) will hold off their offer sheets. We go into free agency waiting for Durant and Horford. Neither happens. We sign Anderson. Now sign and trade talks get serious.

As soon as we signed Anderson for 4/80 you should've known it was game on with DMo. And everything since has pointed to a huge sign and trade of DMo. DMo ain't sweating a thing. He might not know for sure whether he's staying here or going to Brooklyn or possibly some other team but he knows he's got his dough. He's not being interviewed complaining about losing market value, complaining about the botched trade killing his market. Don't you think if he was worried about his future earnings potential that we'd be hearing something? Of course we would. But he's happy. Not going to play in the Olympics to increase his perceived market value. Why? Because he can't afford to play in the Olympics, get hurt, and then lose grip of the max (or very close to max) deal he had in his grasp already.

Remember another thing. MDA marketed to DMo that he was going to be his super sub OFF THE BENCH. That's a nice convenient out for the Rox. Hey DMo, we wanted you to be our super sub but BKN (or whoever) wants you to build around you as their star. That's better for you and they're willing to pay you a full 4-year max. Would you want to go to BKN? We don't want to hold you back and they are willing to trade for you if you prefer a starting starring role.

All the writing is on the wall here guys. DMo is going to get PAID. And most likely we sign and trade him. But......We could still possible keep him and then trade him or Anderson in February. But......the odds right now are extremely favoring DMo being signed and traded at some point over the next few weeks. Watch for the Nets (and possibly Denver, etc.) to fill out their cap space and then DMo's contract and destination to come to finality.

 

Wild speculation is wild, DMO for the max? Not even in this market. Way too many question marks. Not saying some dumb GM won't do it but if they do they will be fired soon after. Maybe there is a possible sign and trade that will happen but why haven't we heard ANY interest from the Nets or Nuggets, etc. from one of the many respected reporters like Woj, Amick, etc.? Also, what is the reason for the stall? Nothing is going on now in free agency so why not just get the deal done and move on if it is going down as you say?

Maybe there is a trade with a drafted guy in the first round that has already signed his contract? Has that kind of maneuvering ever happened before? The old Morey would make me believe that he drafted Onuaku for someone else which is why he hasn't signed him. He has DMO on the hook for a sign and trade but has to wait at least 30 days after a 1st round rookie has been signed in the teens. DMO + Onuaku for solid player + 1st round rookie?

I am not saying I don't see Morey as a wizard still but I think his element of surprise is gone and he can't be as innovative as he has been in the past due to the way the cap has gone up and people are flush with cash. If DMO signs an offer sheet that is substantial, I just can't see us matching or at the very least I can't see a team thinking we will match so at that point we really have no leverage. Why even bother with a sign and trade if you are the Nets or Nuggets who have the cap space? No reason to lose an asset or 2. If they think DMO is worth the risk then why risk losing something else when odds are the Rockets won't match anything more than 3 years?

 

You have no answers for these questions but I do. It's obvious. There's no interest in DMo most likely because DMo is already set on his future. He's the one not interested. The stall? Waiting for the Nets and others to decide how they're going to use their cap space and/or waiting for more events to unfold on our side.

Possible. But not likely. My thoughts on Onuaku are not related to DMo although I could easily see us trading his rights.

LOL. You way underestimate Morey's wizardry. Nobody in the NBA puts together deals better than him. I just explained to you why teams aren't signing fmo to an offer sheet. They know they can't get him. He's turning them down.

It should tell you everything you need to know that DMo isn't sweating anything here. Don't know why you don't see that. Sign qualifying offer? Low bids? Pshhhhhhhhhh.......Not in this market. DMo's contract has already been agreed to. And it's big.

 

So teams are scared to give DMO an offer and yet somehow he knows he is getting a big offer, got it. That leaves the Rockets making the only official offer at this point. Why would Morey give DMO a substantial offer when he doesn't need to if he is a Wizard like you say and has scared every other team off?

I think it is perfectly legitimate that DMO has a 2 or 3 year deal in the $15-$25 mil range (about $8m per) from the Rockets. That is not a large contract IMO in this era. To DMO, it is a big contract for sure but no one else is going to offer him any more than that so of course he is content. He is not complaining because that is not who DMO is. He was unbelievably professional after the botched trade especially for a fairly young guy so even if the Rockets have lowballed him (which I don't believe) he still wouldn't complain about it to the media like some other entitled prima donnas in this league.

I think we may be saying about the same thing but where we differ is on contract size and length I believe. DMO isn't fretting because he is happy with the reasonable offer that is on the table from the Rockets so he at least has a contract that he can be happy with. I just don't see where a sign and trade comes into play though at this point as we would have heard at least of some interest by desperate cash happy teams. Do you have any tweets from Woj, Amick, etc. showing interest in DMO at all? If not, how can teams (not named the Rockets) keep such interest quiet in this ridiculous age of social media where even the most minor whisper gets blasted all over the internet?

 

^you'll see

 

See what, that DMO will get a big contract offer than what I expect and/or he will be sign and traded?

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HOU likely won't ACTUALLY sign D-Mo, Nene, Prigioni or other vet min guys until they resolve deal talks w/Onuaku (to get him on 3-yr deal).</p>&mdash; David Weiner (@BimaThug) <a href="https://twitter.com/BimaThug/status/753641023335641088">July 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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They will likely try to sign Onuaku before signing or matching an offer sheet for Motiejunas. However, given the increased salaries being handed out to other early second rounders this summer (such as Deyonta Davis and Ivica Zubac), there is some risk that Onuaku might take the “K.J. McDaniels Route” and instead accept a one-year rookie minimum deal in order to hit restricted free agency next summer. The Rockets will try to resolve any such issues with Onuaku sooner rather than later.

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Sigh...

Yesterday you showed progress by calling one of your theories an opinion, but today you are right back to being your old self.

 

You say this quite often. I guess...maybe we will?

 

I want to b**** slap basketbalholic like not even punch . That's how low he is smh

 

You'll all see!

 

A guy basically goes to lengths to try and come to some common ground as to say "we agree with alot of the same points, but here is my point is valid" and you basically respond like a snotty little b****.

You are truly a piece of work dude.

 

I will see vet minimum dude!

 

At this point would anyone be shocked to see an acceptance of the QO? I personally wouldn't unless he knows his back is that bad, and he needs to get in as much cash as possible to not risk next Summer.

D-Mo is truly one of the more tricky & risky free agents out there this year even despite the exploding cap. Anyone saying they know exactly what is going to happen with his contract is full of hot sh$&.

 

The Rockets didn't balk at offering him the QO so they know he's worth many times the vet minimum, this isn't a Terrence Jones situation where he's worth somewhere around half to a third of the QO and likely playing for the minimum.

Like has been suggested before, the Rockets are finishing up moves before signing DMo, just have some patience.

 

Goldie Wilson: You wait and see, Mr. Carruthers.

 

Dmo has other choices than TJones and it is not all about value but upbringining, type of basketball.

On one hand, TJones is an All American youth product and NCAA champ.
He will likely stay in the NBA, NBDL, the only reasonable other choice would be China where they value individual talent and skillset.

Dmo on the other hand, is a natural Euro player who is skilled and a Team ball guy but not assertive as a player.

He differs too much, is already 1 year older than TJones.

He can be an NBA journeyman or return to good European BBall clubs.

Different career choices and trajectory.

Terrence being 24, turning 25 years old real soon and Donatas being 26 already.

They need to turn it around in the next 2 or 3 years or they probably are just average role players at best.