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[Breaking News] Terror attack in Nice, France

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. ISOBall

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    GTA gotta be banned in France
     
  2. Commodore

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Brodie Copeland, 11, and dad are American victims of Nice, France attack. <a href="https://t.co/aBhs8rjkFm" title="http://thebea.st/2afgAXj">thebea.st/2afgAXj</a> <a href="https://t.co/Bl3hpEK3ng" title="http://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/753912586798768130/photo/1">pic.twitter.com/Bl3hpEK3ng</a></p>&mdash; The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) <a href="https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/753912586798768130" data-datetime="2016-07-15T11:22:22+00:00">July 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  3. Rockets Pride

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    Because he's a ****ing coward.

    Just a few more months and he can go play with his friends
     
  4. Cohete Rojo

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    For the guy who did this, the justification is that they are all apostates. If Salafi Arabia can call them out for who they are, why cannot the US?
     
  5. Dei

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">France must learn to &quot;live with terrorism&quot;, French PM Manuel Valls says after <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NiceAttack?src=hash">#NiceAttack</a> <a href="https://t.co/UVBb4u9oF3">https://t.co/UVBb4u9oF3</a> <a href="https://t.co/gVRUmzQEts">pic.twitter.com/gVRUmzQEts</a></p>&mdash; BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/753873296303751168">July 15, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    I guess those 80~ people who died just needed to be taught to live with terrorism better.
     
  6. Nook

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    France must "learn to live with terrorism"....

    No the elected officials need to do something about it or they will be replaced with those that will.
     
  7. Liberon

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    I didn't do well in reading graphs in school but from that graph it shows to me the world attacks went up significantly as well. I mean look at that elevation in slope.
     
  8. craguin

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    They're from the Austin area:

    [Austin American-Statesman] Family: Lakeway father, son die in Nice, France attack
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The U.S. having tons of troops in Iraq would not have stopped ISIS from forming in Syria and who knows how successful they would have been.

    One thing is for certain, 40,000 U.S. troops in Iraq would have led to many many soldier's deaths and even more casualties - far far more than the number of American lives lost to date from ISIS.

    Progress is being made against ISIS. You're right it was a mistake not to take it more seriously than it should have been. But many of these attacks are not ISIS agents - and honestly that's the bigger challenge.
     
  10. tallanvor

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    what progress do u speak of?
     
  11. sugrlndkid

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    Think he meant...progressively getting worse...
     
  12. mtbrays

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    Barack Obama has been President or President-elect for nearly eight full years. Don't you wingnuts thinks that, by now, he would've given you an "Allahu Akbar" or some other smoking gun?

    You're deranged.
     
  13. Kevooooo

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    The only progress being made is their territorial control is eroding. Which is why many think we're seeing so many of these attacks in the West, to show they're still relevant and powerful.

    Progress might be being made on the physical front, but the ideology is stronger than ever. With every single successful attack, it inspires more and more to do the same.

    They may not be pledged members of ISIS (apparently Baghdadi has to personally accept your pledge?), but they're inspired by ISIS and they, to some degree, believe in the same religious supremacy ideals of groups like ISIS and alQaeda.

    Obama is half right when he says these people need jobs. But being unemployed and disillusioned is no excuse for murdering dozens of innocent civilians.
     
  14. Rockets Pride

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    I'd rather be a republican then be a dem that shares the same ticket with all the worthless scum in America. Your tickets encourages the criminal vote. Want welfare and free ****??? Vote democrat !!!!!
     
  15. BigDog63

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    Huh? ISIS was formed by military leadership, had military goals (invasion and conquest), had military equipment, etc. If anything, the reverse is true: Al Queda was not military, whereas ISIS is.

    Which means, btw, that military measures against them were more likely to be successful.

    This is true. Both for the political reasons you mentioned, but also for the military ones. Al Queda NEVER had the military force that ISIS does.
     
  16. BigDog63

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    ISIS almost immediately expanded into Iraq, and acquired much of their equipment when the Iraqi soldiers simply abandoned it. So, it is not really debatable that they wouldn't have been nearly as successful. Their main strongholds are in Iraq, not Syria.

    This is true.

    This is also true. ISIS is already formulating plans for what to do after they are 'defeated'. Was it worth the additional time this took? That remains to be seen.
     
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  17. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Seriously, take some deep breaths. I know the media and the internet want you to be furious, because they benefit financially from user/viewer fury.

    But we are all your fellow citizens, sharing many common values, many common goals. You can't, and we can't, hate and yell our way to solving our problems. Christ would be the first to say this, and we shouldn't forsake such deep lessons in our fear and frustration.

    On topic, Obama's word choice has nothing to do with this horrific attack in France. Sorry.

    On topic, I hope somebody is doing an intense dissection of every brain of every terrorist who can carry out an attack like this. And I hope some of the best big data minds in the world are looking for the key patterns. It's the only way you have any hope of intercepting things like this. I'm sure a lot of attacks are intercepted already. And some speculate this attack's plan was actually diverted, since the dude didn't use his cache of weaponry.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Fair point. I have to say, you are quickly becoming the most respected conservative poster in D&D.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    No, it wouldn't have stopped it from forming, it formed in 1999, what it would have prevented was the huge expansion of ISIS which gained them the credibility they have now. When the fool in the white house is calling them the "JV team" they are busy taking over half of Syria and half of Iraq.

    With a strong presence in Iraq, they'd have been stopped at the border and the US would have a great staging ground to move in and crush them if they started to get out of hand. That would have prevented them from ever gaining the credibility to have "ISIS inspired attacks" across the globe by non ISIS members.

    Would US military members have lost their lives? Sure, but I'd rather the battle be over there than in Orlando or in Paris. The reason to have a military is to protect civilians in the first place.
     

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