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Donatas Motiejunas now a restricted free agent, no qualifying offer for Terrence Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by treyk3, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    I think you need to work on your understanding about what constitutes as an actual fact. Here is a hint buddy, words like overrated are NOT facts but subjective terminology. Potential is not fact. Per36 or whatever you choose to scale to are projections and not facts. Trying to predict something that has not even happened is NOT fact. Facts are things like metrics and actual production. Let me show you what facts are and hopefully your brain can keep up.

    1. Anderson is statistically a superior shooter and scorer = Fact
    2. Anderson has statistically been more productive consistently = Fact
    3. Superior shooting and scoring means more better ability to space the floor = Fact
    4. Points 1-3 are very important to Harden = Ok, this one is opinion but might as well be treated as fact
    5. Anderson is statistically a better rebounder than D-Mo (marginally so, but still better) = Fact
    6. Anderson had teams that were willing to sign him right off the bat = Fact
    7. D-Mo has had one partial season of good production = Fact
    8. D-Mo has received no reported offers in an offseason full of crazy contracts = Fact
     
  2. nobie

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    DMo average low amount of FT's, doesnt bother practicing FT's, since they have almost no impact on his overall game, just like Anderson. DMo average 60% or Anderson averaging 80% makes basically no difference for Rockets overall.
     
  3. justtxyank

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    His advanced numbers in limited playing time were slightly better than Ryan Anderson. Slightly.

    Again, I don't think we have enough data to say what Motiejunas will be as a rebounder on any consistent basis.
     
  4. KlutchQT

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    This. Anybody suggesting Ryno is nothing more than a 3-point shooter is talking out of their ass.

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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    But when you compare those same numbers using Ryan Anderson's last year and DMo's last year, DMo is better across the board overall.
     
  6. nobie

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    Will see
     
  7. chenjy9

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    He is definitely underrated in the paint, but I would argue that D-Mo is most likely better in the post. He definitely has a better hook shot.
     
  8. justtxyank

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    Yes I said this as well. Ryan Anderson underperformed his career norms last year and DMo rebounded better than him, but the sample size is worth pointing out.

    I'm not bashing DMO. I like DMO and hope we keep him. I don't think we have enough of a sample size to say what DMO can or can't do.
     
  9. chenjy9

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    I think you meant to say "We'll see" instead of "Will see", but either way, you are still completely wrong (unsurprising) with your reply. See, here is the thing. Facts are proven. They have already happened. All the things you are hoping for D-Mo (as a Rockets fan, I hope he does all that too) are NOT facts and have not happened. There is also the strong possibility that they will NEVER happen as well. Anderson has consistently shown what he can do season after season and it is definitely superior to D-Mo.
     
  10. YOLO

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    puahaha theres nothing to be wrong about. good luck finding anything i was wrong about with him. But theres plenty of trash you have spewed in the last 2 years regarding this guy. I cannot wait to see the single digit contract Dmo is about to get so you can shut your mouth up
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Anyway, what matters is that all we can do is hope that Ryan Anderson plays better than DMo for the Rockets given that we through a ton of cash at him. Maybe his offense will be good enough to overcome how bad he is on defense and still make him better overall, maybe that won't happen. If it doesn't happen, the Rockets made the worst FA signing of the year.
     
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    ok you should probably try to understand what you're trying to say before posting
     
  13. nobie

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    Im saying averaging low amount of FT attempts means your FT % means ****. If you still dont understand..............
     
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    Analytically sure.
    But when u cant play in crucial moments because you are a freethrow liability it can and will affect your playing time as well as confidence overall.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah but that's not the case. DMo is a guy you put in to end the "hack a" strategy. Capela and Granny Shot are the only 2 left that are "hack a" targets on the roster.
     
  16. YOLO

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    and what you're trying to say has absolutely no point
     
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    Personally I think DMo has already agreed to a sign-and-trade to be completed at some future date when Morey finally gets all his ducks lined up.

    MDA hasn't mentioned one word about DMo since we signed Anderson. And he had a sit down dinner with him at the beginning of the month.

    I think contract is agreed to and it's close enough to a max that other teams ain't even trying to offer him anything. Look, if Anderson gets 4/80 there's no way DMo even with his injuries gets significantly less. Nets probably going to pay him 4/94 or whatever. And we're holding the Nets to a sign-and-trade by telling then we'll match if he signs an offer sheet. Anderson's injury history is just as significant as DMo's.

    Just to speculate further (yeah speculate ;)), the Nets tied up most of their cap with offer sheets to Crabbe and Johnson for a while so if they were going after DMo with a max offer sheet then we probably talked them into a sign-and-trade involving DMo and Lopez. Lopez perhaps going to a third team or coming here for a trade later. Or perhaps since Crabbe and Johnson were matched we've got to wait for BKN to now use their free cap space before signing DMo and trading him and others for Lopez (or whatever we can get for Lopez).

    That's my speculation. And I'm sticking to it. ;)
     
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    It's cool that you are calling it speculation this time. That changes the entire way I read your post.

    Would be great if we had a sign and trade worked out for max dollars because it would mean something significant is coming back.
     
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    Better 3 pointer, better rebounder and free throws. Dmo is not twice as better defensively. They're pretty even in that area. The only thing that DMo is better at and that's passing.
     
  20. chenjy9

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    I personally don't think such a thing like a max offer could stay hidden, especially considering D-Mo's limited production and the fact that he has not shown he has bounced back from his injury. Just my speculations ofc.
     

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