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Trump 2016: Yes. We. Can.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Honey Bear, Aug 5, 2015.

  1. RocketsLegend

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    You people keep getting you election news from CNN aka clinton news network. And people wonder why Trump calls out the media for unfair reporting.

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  2. Ubiquitin

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    Delete your account.
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Can you please list the Twitter, facebook, and YouTube accounts we should be getting our news from? I hate to be misinformed. Thanks.
     
  4. cml750

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    lol, Bernie made Shrillary move to the left. I did not think that was possible but he did. The left of beyond stupid is not a good situation.
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    So what's your excuse? Are you college educated? I mean, did you attend liberal indoctrination school? I'm taking a survey.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    BOOM

    I wish I could embed the videos...maybe one of you young Facebookers can.

    https://www.facebook.com/historiansondonaldtrump/videos

    Scholars Steeped in Dead Politicians Take On a Live One: Donald Trump
    By JIM DWYER JULY 12, 2016

    No one could mistake the voice of David McCullough, either in the books that have made him one of the most influential United States historians of his era, or in the documentaries he has narrated for the “American Experience” television series.

    Authoritative and measured, Mr. McCullough typically strikes a tone of determined neutrality. In public appearances, he said, he deliberately avoids commentary on contemporary politics.

    “Very often, during question-and-answer sessions, people ask me some question about the president or other would-be candidates,” he said in an interview this week. “I’ve always said, ‘My specialty is dead politicians.’ In that way, I could sidestep the question without getting myself involved.

    “But this time around, I don’t feel that way any more.”

    Now Mr. McCullough and Ken Burns, the filmmaker and author, have assembled a group of distinguished American historians to speak about the candidacy of Donald J. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, in videos being posted to a Facebook page, Historians on Donald Trump.

    It is a diverse, honored group — including, among others, Robert A. Caro, Ron Chernow, David Levering Lewis, William E. Leuchtenberg, Vicki Lynn Ruiz — that speaks with alarm about Mr. Trump’s candidacy and his place in the march of American history.

    Mr. McCullough, raised in a Republican home and now aligned with no party, said the prospect of a Trump presidency so distressed him that he felt he could not remain publicly detached. “When you think of how far we have come, and at what cost, and with what faith, to just turn it all over to this monstrous clown with a monstrous ego, with no experience, never served his country in any way — it’s just crazy,” he said. “We can’t stand by and let it happen. The Republican Party shouldn’t stand by and let it happen.”

    “I should say, I’m a registered independent,” he added. “I’m strongly in favor of a number of Republicans both past and in our own time. It’s not as though I’m doing this from lifelong ideology against Republicans. By no means.”

    Mr. McCullough said he contacted Mr. Burns after seeing him tell this year’s graduating class at Stanford University that despite 40 years of avoiding advocacy in his work, he no longer had “the luxury of neutrality or ‘balance’ or even of bemused disdain.” After a few conversations, Mr. McCullough said, the two men came up with a plan: “Why don’t we see if we can round up some other people who care about the American story, and who have given so much of their life’s work to it, see if they are willing to step out and make themselves heard.”

    The videos are mostly homemade, smartphone productions. None of the historians asked to weigh in have declined, Mr. Burns said.

    Like many of the others, Mr. Burns said he heard echoes of dangerous populist demagogues in Mr. Trump’s rhetoric. Among the issues that were cited were his calls to ban all Muslims, his characterization of many Mexicans as criminals and his mockery of veterans and people with disabilities. Mr. Trump has said that the country faces crises that require strong action to protect its borders, and that his role as an outsider has cost him the approval of elites and entrenched interests, including in his own party.

    In the 1920s, fear of immigrants fueled the rise of the Ku Klux Klan and exclusionary laws aimed at European Catholics and Asians, said Ms. Ruiz, a professor of history at the University of California, Irvine, and past president of the American Historical Association. Also, about one-third of the Mexican population in this country was pushed out, more than half of them United States citizens by birth, she said.

    “Playing with hate has had tragic consequences throughout our history,” she said.

    Mr. Chernow, a Pulitzer Prize winner whose “Alexander Hamilton” was a principal source for the Broadway musical “Hamilton,” said he had been struck by Mr. Trump’s lack of reference to the founding documents of American history, or to presidents like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin D. Roosevelt. “The only historical movement that Mr. Trump alludes to is a shameful one — ‘America First,’” Mr. Chernow said, recalling an isolationist political organization at the time Nazi Germany was taking power across Europe.

    Mr. Lewis, a professor at New York University and biographer of W. E. B. DuBois, recalled Wendell Willkie, a presidential candidate with a superficial resemblance to Mr. Trump, in that he was a wealthy businessman who had held no prior electoral office and became a Republican just shortly before the 1940 campaign against Roosevelt. But after the election, Willkie distinguished himself by calling for a loyal opposition, Professor Lewis said. (Willkie served as Roosevelt’s informal emissary to Britain, in a sign of bipartisanship.) “For Donald Trump, Willkie’s loyal opposition concept is surely anathema,” Professor Lewis said.

    Mr. Leuchtenberg, a professor emeritus at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and a leading scholar of the American presidency, said Mr. Trump was essentially ahistorical. “He has no sense of the American past,” Professor Leuchtenberg said. “He doesn’t understand the achievements of this country.”
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    ^^^

    Good post/link. History is repeating itself from the late 19th and early 20th century. Our political, social, and economic institutions haven't kept up/adapted to this new paradigm shift of globalization and automation in the developed world. Obama was pretty populist then Sanders and Trump doubled down on it.
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    The name edit was masterful. Be careful with powerful with powerful rhetoric like that, soon you'll be turning everyone away from "shillary"
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    You keep using the genetic fallacy instead of actual arguments. And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.
     
  10. Dubious

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    I don't think he cares if anyone takes him seriously, it's blissful to revel in contrarian conviction. There is really not much truth justice and inspiration to counter with anyway. No one is passionate about the status quo.
     
  11. marky :)

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    Your stupidity is beyond measurement. Scientist should
     
  12. marky :)

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    ... classify your level of stupidity and we will prohibit anyone on your level of stupidity from breeding.
     
  13. Dubious

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    The world needs ditch diggers too.
     
  14. dmoneybangbang

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    That's the scary part. The type of person that would vote for Trump doesn't care about facts, just the status quo.
     
  15. leroy

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    You mean the channel that hired his recently fired campaign manager...while he's still on Trump's payroll?
     
  16. justtxyank

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    And also employs his good friend and advisor Jeffrey Lord, or spokeswoman Kayleigh Mcenany. Mcenany gets a primetime spot on multiple panels a night basically with CNN as does Jeff Lord.
     
  17. geeimsobored

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    Looks like Trump will be picking Mike Pence as his VP which makes sense considering Pence had a reputation as a spineless yes man when he was in Congress. He was also a loud right wing radio talk show host so he'll be bombastic like Trump. Perfect pick for Trump. It also saves Pence from the embarrassing reality that he might lose re-election in November.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    I don't think Rocketslegend even knows who those people are.

    Jeff Lord is a true loon.
    Here's Jeff Lord being ripped another ass hole by Van Jones.
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  19. Nook

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    How do you manage to survive in society without supervision?

    What are your limitations? Are you able to shave or bathe yourself?

    Are you allowed to cook or drive a car?

    Can you keep a menial job?

    Does someone help you balance your finances and ensure your medical needs are met?
     
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    Donald Trump's Campaign Signals He Will Pick Mike Pence as Running Mate

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