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Dallas cops shot during protest in Dallas.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RocketsLegend, Jul 7, 2016.

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  1. Granville

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    What he referred to as peaceful protests are people chanting that. There was a sniper up there preparing to kill officers listening to that crap and feeling empowered by those chants. People protesting about prejudice and stereotyping while doing the same thing to police. Obama was championed as the great Uniter and has been the opposite. His legacy is propping up a generation of people with a crutch. If he had half a nut he'd tell America to wait until the investigation has concluded before passing judgement on the 2 latest cases.
     
  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I wish Bush was even more active. He completely deserves full retirement and painting, etc. The job has to be a killer.

    But he's so good with people and appearances like today mean a lot I think. I love it when multiple presidents representing both parties make appearances and speeches together. People need to see it and digest it a bit.
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    So throw out every other thing he said in a speech, amiright? As soon as we (or the editors at Fox News), find something we don't agree with, just tune out and start shouting our point of view. It's kind of like dismissing a whole protest movement because, of dozens of different chants in scores of different cities, you really don't like one chant that was shown on heavy play on TV (because it can get the audience mad and watch more TV).

    Turning off our listening is part of what is getting us nowhere fast, IMHO. I didn't love 100% of the speech either. I liked a lot of it though. I liked how he underlined everything that cops have to do in our society, including a lot that shouldn't even be on their backs.

    I like how he profiled the officers who died that day, and I like how he underlined that people were working together during the shooting and the aftermath. The fact that the 12-yr-old boy wants to be a cop is a fantastic thing to highlight on a day like this at an event like that.

    But we just throw all of that away because he's not 100% what we want, or because our media only shows the part that can make people the most angry. Adds more sadness. That's about it.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    He was that same guy when he was Governor. I miss that guy. World events just got bigger than him, and he failed miserably.

    If Hillary wasn't a candidate right now, he and Bill could have a national tv fireside chat/roundtable that could really do some good.
     
  5. Granville

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    He was there for honor those fallen heroes not pass out more crutches. Those heroes deserved the spotlight not Obama's take on a mess he has made worse. Again those are not peaceful protests if those kind of chants are a part of them. That's nothing but inflammatory hate speech. Wake up
     
  6. Granville

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    Weren't you doing the same thing in the post I responded to? I just gave you some odds on you being shot by the cops in another scenario. You might want to think things through before you post.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    There we go with vague platitudes again.
     
  8. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Why don't you keep your murdering cop scenarios to you and your family. I'm guessing you won't be quite as enthusiastic about that, troll.
     
  9. B-Bob

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    I see. I bid you respectful goodbye. I hope this anger at those with different opinions works out and that they all wake up to your specs. Cheers.
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    Seriously for those that keep saying "Divisive" and whatever...can you quote one thing about it that was?

    One?

    How can there even be a discussion if you bring nothing to the table to discuss?
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    I'm pretty confident not a single one of them that are claiming 'divisive' even watched the entire speech.
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    Heck, the entire speech was posted, yet noone seemed capable of cutting and pasting the divisive quote.

    Telling...
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    That's the bottom number on a fraction, right?
     
  14. dandorotik

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    All of us constantly arguing and b****ing back and forth could learn a lesson from these people:

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/s7pkEtM2o-U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  15. shastarocket

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    We would all do much better if we recognized fundamental attribution error + self-serving bias
     
  16. cml750

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    Quoted for truth!!!
     
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    Says the person who needed the transcript.
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    If a teacher asks a student for a quote from a book, does that mean she didn't read the book?

    I asked YOU for a direct quote not to inform me but to actually separate pre-convinced bias with actual objective reasoning. If you can't find an exact quote from his speech that makes his speech 'classless' or 'divisive' as you initially claimed, then I can only chalk that up to your irrational hatred of Obama in the first place rather than the speech itself.

    I need a quote so I have something to work with to debate with you, because right now you are expressing nothing more than vague platitudes.
     
  19. Granville

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    There's nothing vague about that ceremony being about honoring those officers without weaving in a race lecture. You can keep babbling otherwise but you're still on that lost highway with the misguided out of control BLM hate tour
     
  20. Amiga

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    Those cops were killed by someone that hated white first and cops second. No one like that fact and you can choose to hide from it, be angry about it, be scare about it, or face it directly - be a true witness and completely open up to it. What Obama did in the speech IMO was face it directly and open up to it. It was hard but necessary IMO, especially given the continuing divide and inability to see each other - retreat to your corner and harden your stance as he indicated.
     

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