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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

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    No one cares when Benghazi happened it was only later after the Republicans investigated Benghazi which they spent more effort than they did on 9/11!. They couldn't hit her on Benghazi which was admitted to be done to hit her poll numbers but stumble upon the email gift and then yes people cared.
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    Not even enough evidence to prosecute, so IOW no evidence that she is "unfit" for office.

    OOOOH, you're a mind reader? Do you do parties? Go ahead, tell me who else I "hate."

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Comparing a SecState to the previous or two previous SecStates seems like an appropriate comparison, given the context. Next time, you'll want to actually find someone with hate in their heart to accuse of hating Bush. I don't.

    Not "unfit" in any way, but clearly less appealing as a candidate to Gary Johnson.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The right wingers here want people to vote for Johnson or green party to help Trump have a chance a la Ralph Nadar
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    Not enough people who lean left will vote for Johnson for that to happen. Most of the increased Libertarian votes this cycle will come from people who would most likely have voted Republican, if Trump weren't the nominee.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I agree but that's what they want. When Trader Jorge is advocating voting Green, you know his agenda.
     
  6. BigDog63

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    All this time, and still doesn't understand what caused bin Laden to attack the U.S. Sigh.
     
  7. BigDog63

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    Not sure about that. A Libertarian candidate would likely impact Republican votes more than Democrat.

    I brought it up because there seems to be lots of concern with both major candidates, and many forget that there are other options. Johnson is a lot more mainstream (former governor, etc) than any previous Libertarian candidate since John Anderson (which is a good example of who gets effected by Libertarian votes).
     
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    I don't know abt the right wingers here, but I think this is actually the fear that the right has right now. That people will vote for the third party just because they don't like either main candidate. Trump needs all the votes he can get. I don't think many will vote for Hillary over Trump (Republican voters), but for sure some will vote 3rd party/write in/or abstain.

    But it's the same with the Democrats, as seen by Hillary's recent meetings with Bernie. They desperately need unity.

    Democrats could have nominated ANYONE else and they probably would have easily won against Trump. But Hillary is just gross. I don't really care that she isn't indicted, so much as I'm shocked people would vote for her or think she is qualified. Then again, I am still amazed that Trump won a single primary with his nonsensical rhetoric and rambling. But Hillary is untrustworthy, and quite frankly an idiot, IMO. Anyone stupid enough to set up her own server without the proper security (which would have been provided by the State Dpt. Having a private server isn't a big deal, not having it secured is). Anyone stupid enough after serving 8 years as FLOTUS, a US Senator, and a SOS, to do such things and then constantly lie about it, doesn't deserve to be President. Any other state employee would have lost security clearance. You can't have a President without security clearance...

    I honestly think in the back of Comey's head he was like, I can't be responsible for getting Trump elected (by indicting Hillary). I think that's why he said those things about her being careless and basically spelling it out that she SHOULD be prosecuted, but they're not going to. To me it seems like he is just hoping and praying the public takes this information seriously and votes accordingly.

    I'm not hating on Comey. He's been a very respectable person thus far in his career and just because I don't agree with his decision, I won't attack his integrity.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Honestly a lot of Sander supporters wanted her indicted that's why Bernie didn't leave the race. If she is indicted he is clearly the nominee and crushed Trump.

    So I am not sure Comey really was thinking about that but rather just doing his job to the best of his ability.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Just checking back in to say - still don't care.

    DD
     
  11. Kevooooo

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    I know, they thought they could win. And hell, maybe they could have. In my mind, they didn't stand a chance. An open socialist for President in the US? Just don't see it happening right now. A year ago, hell 3 months ago, I would have bet my house that Donald Trump wouldn't make it to the convention...we're in unpredictable times.

    Still, I'd place my money on Trump over Bernie any day.

    And tbh, I don't really think Comey factored politics into his decision. I do think he thought of it, and it will be a relief to him personally given that he holds Republican principles. Problem is Trump isn't a Republican. He's an opportunist. So I can imagine Comey is relieved that his action won't be the nail in Hillary's coffin.
     
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    Do not care. Trump is a used car salesman trying to step into the role of the CEO of GM. If it's Hillary vs Trump then it's Hillary all day.
     
  13. BigDog63

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    I cared, as it was happening. That the United States of America couldn't respond, over a period of many hours, to an attack on its embassy in a known trouble spot seemed ludicrous to me. I also noticed, immediately, that news reports all indicated it was not a spontaneous attack during a parade, but a planned military assault. They were even saying which groups likely did it, and where they likely fled to. All while the State Department continued to put out a false story.
     
  14. okierock

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    The people that say that they don't care about what the state department did during Benghazi are the same type of people that would like Baghdad Bob as their only source of news. The fact that their own government would unabashedly lie to them and they "don't care" says all you need to know about that person.

    Hillary has done it her entire career and she will do it as POTUS and they know it and still "don't care".

    You can not reason with this type of person because they are willing to swallow lies like mother's milk.
     
  15. GladiatoRowdy

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    And you care more about a story told for less than two weeks after the event than the event itself. To be honest, you care more about finding something, ANYTHING with which to disparage Hillary, it is sad that this kid of thing is what you're reduced to.
     
  16. okierock

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    What sad is your SOS can lie bold faced to the American people and you don't care.

    Whats sad is you care more about your partisan politics that you do about integrity.
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

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    I recognize that you see it as a "lie," but when in a situation like that one, the story changes as more information comes in. Either way, this "lie," which lasted less than two weeks, is hardly an indication that Clinton is different from any other politician in the world.

    Wrong, I'm not a Clinton supporter, I'm voting for Gary Johnson.

    I care more about truth and facts than any partisan considerations.
     
  18. Granville

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    No one cared the last time that you weighed in with your opinion.....
     
  19. ipaman

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    as someone in the tech industry, granted only video games but still, i'm surprised by this attitude. i thought "IT" folks would care more about her lack of respect for technology and her cavalier approach using technology because we know the accountability involved. i'm in "IT" and i feel it's a bit disrespectful that our leaders use such **** technology and attitudes towards security. my kids can facetime over vpn and even know how to vpn skirt for facetime and other content. her/their attitude and lack of respect toward technology flat out sucks. drug dealers use more security than hilary, that's pathetic.
     
  20. okierock

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    Telling the American people something that you know to be false is a lie. Even if you don't view this particular like untruth as a lie it isn't like this is the only lie. If you care about truth as you say below then Hillary should be your last choice. I think there is a difference between campaign "truths" and an elected official blatantly lying to the American people.

    I can appreciate this, I don't like Trump at all and I will not vote for Hillary no matter who she runs against but I don't know yet what that means. I align with the Liberatarian party more than the rest but I hate to waste my vote. This is a really tough election cycle.
     

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