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Dallas cops shot during protest in Dallas.

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Turns out BLM rejected Micah Johnson and he was blacklisted!

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...listed-by-black-power-groups-as-unstable.html

    And

    Seems that he was part of a hate group called the Black Riders. It's sad that people try to blame BLM and Obama for this guy when it now surfaces that groups like BLM rejected him and ostracized him - but our right wing friends here don't care, they want to create a narrative that helps attacks BLM and that fact makes you wonder if they are indeed harboring unsurfaced hatred for blacks.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    They "rejected" him due to sexual harassment, not his radical beliefs....so I'm not sure what you think you are proving here. The founders of the BLM movement still consider an exiled terrorist leader their personal role model so those people are still extremists even if they won't tolerate sexual harassment.
     
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  3. Amiga

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    BLM has repeatedly condemn all violence.

    They continue to be an easy target for blame. Happen in the Houston/Cypress killing and again here before facts are established.
     
  4. SwoLy-D

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  5. HayesStreet

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    Calling BLM a terrorist organization has to be the dumbest **** I've ever heard. And I've been on this board for more than fifteen years.
     
  6. Amiga

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    Did someone actually do that or do you just have laughably horrible reading comprehension skills?
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The fact that they do background checks on people shows they screen for people. They don't want cop-killers as part of their organization. And it's questionable that the person was a terrorist leader as she didn't commit any acts of terrorism - we already showed that she did not shoot that cop.

    You are just hellbent on attacking BLM and any black movement because you just can't stand blacks. Just be honest. Why don't you come out and face it - you have to twist and spin everything to make sure you stand above blacks.
     
  9. HayesStreet

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    Go back a page, rookie.
     
  10. heypartner

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    See, BLM shows no tolerance for others. Had they accepted they him, they could have taught him their peaceful ways and he could have felt helpful and part of the group. Instead, the Army casts him out, BLM rejects him and he's a loner with no guidance.

    BLM is to blame for rejecting the kid.
     
  11. Amiga

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    Open carry created headaches for both lawful carriers and law enforcement.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1c0d96-46a9-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html

     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    They do background checks to make sure no one sexually harasses people and no it's not questionable at all that she was a terrorist leader. By your logic it's questionable that OBL was a terrorist leader because he didn't personally commit any acts of terrorism

    On top of that you didn't show that she didn't shoot the cop that she was convicted of killing. You just suggested that she was framed but even then it wouldn't matter, as a leader of a terrorist organization she's still guilty for the actions of others.....and she's the personal hero of those who founded BLM. Sorry kiddo, you'll lose this every time you bring it up.
     
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    You and others accuse/strongly suggest black lives matter of being involved in the Dallas shootings - this shows they were not. Yet you still try to weasel out by saying it's only because of his sexual harassment.

    Then you say Black lives matter who respects an icon from the civil rights movement whom many believe to have been wrongly framed due to police officers lying then admitting they lied and that in fact the person didn't have a gun - can be written off as racist. And you call the organization of this person to be a terrorist organization - why? Because they said so!

    You my friend have an issue because even when you get new information, instead of taking it in, you just spin and find ways to explain it away. This is called something in psychology - it's called denial.

    Bro - wake up!
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    No, I say that the founders of the BLM movement would approve of it based on who their role models are. Their role models would absolutely approve of killing cops, it's what they were all about.

    That "icon" was the leader of a terrorist organization known as the Black Liberation Army, saying that she was "framed" by suggesting her involvement in the shooting of a cop either involving her personally or simply done by one of her soldiers in her presence is irrelevant. She was the leader of a terrorist organization responsible for numerous bombings, murders, police assassinations, and robberies.

    I know you aren't really a big fan of facts, but sorry kiddo, the facts are b**** slapping you on this one.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    No my friend I think you have no respect for facts.

    Where was it she was the leader of BLA? She was just a member. And the only crime she has been convicted of was the turnpike shootout. She didn't order those killings. Those weren't her men, quite the opposite.

    You are just making things up.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL wow, you're hopeless.

    Anyway, instead of accusing people of "making things up", try looking something up for a change. I know that it's detrimental to the narrative you are trying to push, but it'll prevent you from looking like a moron.

    Good luck.
     
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    I thought "It's on in 2016!" was a pretty innocuous statement to derive this accusation that it was some kind of violent hate group. But, I found the post on Facebook in question:

    [rquoter]Lakesia Washington with Kemet Adofo and 46 others.
    July 7 at 3:35pm ·
    It's on in 2016! R.I.P. to Alton Sterling in La and Philando Castile in Minnesota! We need recruits everywhere! Arm yourself or Harm yourself! Join Now! BLACK RIDERS-New Generation Black Panther Party for Self-Defense! Black Power! All Power to the People! RBG 4 LIFE! Be A Panther At War- For the Hearts and Minds of the People!
    To be a new member, inbox or email us at blackriders1996@gmail.com

    PLEASE READ AND SHARE...

    The Newspaper is our Number One Educational Survival Program
    FROM L.A TO THE BAY, ST. LOUIS TO DETROIT, TEXAS TO NEW YORK, WE NEED A NATIONWIDE DEFENSE FORCE!

    READ BLACK RIDERS NUMBER ONE RULE...

    Be a Black Rider! JOIN NOW! It is time to intensify the struggle! BLACK RIDERS - new generation Black Panthers," Out of frustration and hopelessness, the Black Riders was formed by young Black people who have reached the point of no return. We refuse to be manipulated by the racist U.S. government and its ruling elite any longer into set tripping over blue and red or any "hood" or "turf" in ameriKKKa. We no longer endorse patience and turning the other cheek. We assert the right of self-defense by whatever means necessary, and reserve the right of maximum retaliation against our racist oppressors, no matter what the odds against us are.

    From here on in, if we must die anyway, we will die fighting back and we will not die alone! We intend to see that our racist oppressors also get a taste of death!
    We will protect the Black Community with our minds, bodies, and souls. BLACK POWER! All Power to the People! Black Riders Number One Rule”

    POINT J OUT OF OUR UPDATED 10 POINT PROGRAM CALLED THE BLACK COMMUNE PROGRAM: WE RIDE for an immediate end to POLICE BRUTALITY and MURDER of Black People. We ride because we believe we can end police brutality in our Black community by organizing Black self-defense groups dedicated to defending our Black community from racist police oppression and brutality. The 2nd amendment of the u.s constitution gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all Black people should arm themselves for self-defense.

    IT IS BETTER TO DIE ON YOUR FEET THEN TO LIVE ON YOUR KNEES! IF YOU DON'T STAND FOR SOMETHING YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING!

    THE REVOLUTION HAS COME!

    BLACK RIDERS - NEW GENERATION BLACK PANTHER PARTY
    FOR SELF-DEFENSE! We are now accepting Nation Wide recruits.
    Inbox or email us if you are down
    blackriders1996@gmail.com

    YOUR PEOPLE NEED YOU... GET YOUR CITY AND STATE INVOLVED!

    DON'T MISS OUT ON JOINING THE FASTEST GROWING BLACK MILITANT/ REVOLUTIONARY ORGANIZATION IN RACIST AMERIKKKA! IT IS NOW OR NEVER...

    RBG 4 LIFE! ! !

    PLEASE SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW!
    BE A BLACK RIDER!

    There's a Black Panther born in the hood every 5 minutes!
    WE MUST STOP THE GENOCIDE WITH UNITY! ! !
    By General T.A.C.O (Taking All capitalists Out) aka WOLVERINE
    SHAKUR... The Leader Of the Black Riders - NEW GENERATION BLACK PANTHER PARTY FOR SELF-DEFENSE!

    HERE'S WHAT WE DO TO UPLIFT THE BLACK COMMUNITY...We patrol the racist police with our Watch-A-Pig program, armed with video cameras and other legal weapons. We also develop survival programs because Black People are facing extermination and genocide. Some of these programs are the George Jackson Freedom School for Black Children, our Educate to Liberate Classes for Black Adults, Free Food programs for the homeless, and many, many more. Overall we push Revolution to get free from the oppressive conditions in the hood that comes from white supremacy and capitalism. Also we develop gang truces between many hoods like the Bloods and Crips in L.A to stop Black on Black violence. We push hard for Black unity! BLACK POWER! ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

    (To donate by mail, you can send cash, check, or money order payable to Lakesia Wahington P.O. Box 8297 los Angeles, Ca 90008)

    ENLIST NOW... TIME IS RUNNING OUT... WE MUST UNITE AND RIDE NOW!

    WE WILL NOW CRITICIZE THE UNJUST WITH THE WEAPON... BY GEORGE JACKSON - FIELD MARSHALL OF THE O. G BLACK PANTHERS! ! !

    BLACK POWER! ! ! ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLE! ! ! RBG 4 LIFE!!
    FROM L.A TO THE BAY, ST. LOUIS TO DETROIT, TEXAS TO NEW YORK, WE NEED A NATIONWIDE DEFENSE FORCE!
    REST IN PEACE MIKE BROWN... EZELL FORD... ERIC GARNER... WALTER SCOTT... ALTON STERLING... AND PHILANDO CASTILE! .....REST IN POWER! ! ![/rquoter]



    Yes, and it's problematic in shootings like this.
     
  19. BigDog63

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    We DO need to perhaps modify the standard. Simply saying you fear for your life isn't enough. Even in civilian cases. It should be 'would a reasonable person fear for their life.' Or, in the case of police, would a reasonable policeman fear for their life in those circumstances?
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Well sure it can cause confusion if people are openly carrying during a terrorist attack like the one in Dallas, but it didn't cause all that many problems. The guy with the rifle turned his rifle over to police without an incident and they interviewed and released him.

    More than anything, it just led to an inconvenience on the part of the man openly carrying which IMO is sort of the cost of doing business.
     

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