Neither group's cause has been righteous, and both groups were spawned and sustained from the Democrat left. Lie and deny in the typical leftist fasion if you must, but that is a historical fact. The Democrats own responsibility for both of these groups.
They were officially recognized as a hate group just like the KKK. Having different aims and hating different groups doesn't change that both are hate groups. I don't make excuses for hate groups or terrorist groups, maybe you do, but that's not my thing. So no, I won't say the KKK's cause is "just" any more than I'll say any other hate group's cause is "just" and that includes the Black Panthers. All sorts of terrorist groups would argue that their cause is just as well and that they are fighting for justice....when you start going down the path of rationalizing hate groups and terrorist organizations, you've already lost.
No need for "additional" concern, there's already plenty of concern, that's why police shoot more white people every year than any other group.....it's just that you never hear about it because they don't matter and people assume they did something wrong to wind up shot. You only really hear about police shootings when it is a black man that is shot because that's used to further a narrative so the assumption is that they were innocent and were hunted down by racists no matter what the actual facts are. A black man attacks a cop and all we hear is "hands up, don't shoot" when the man is shot during the attack. There's a large group of people brainwashed by a dangerous rhetoric the same type of rhetoric that led the guy to shoot innocent cops in Dallas.
I'm not fixated on Democrat vs Republican, as you apparently are. You saying that the KKK originated from the "Left" and this is "historical fact" is, well, interesting. That's news to me.
And who "officially" designated them as a hate group? J. Edgar Hoover, the same guy who went after MLK, believing him to be a Communist and a national security threat? And, from this, you some how are jumping to them being a terrorist group?
Ah yes, it's just "the man" out to get them. SMH. The same people who designate the KKK a hate group designated the Black Panthers as a hate group.....because they are a hate group, no matter what their "intentions" were. They endorsed violence and preached hatred. There's no argument against that. For the record, I didn't call the Black Panther's a terrorist group, I called them a hate group. I called the organization led by Assata Shakur (personal hero of the founders of the BLM movement) called the Black Liberation Army a terrorist group....because they were a terrorist group.
At a time when people of color weren't even treated human something had to be done. The KKK wanted to maintain slavery and even within their credo they want to bring it back if you look into each organization's manifesto.
Well, that's conveniently dismissive of you. Lets just ignore the mountains of evidence we now have documenting how the FBI, under Hoover, went after any groups/people they deemed too "subversive". If Hoover thinks they were a hate group, well then they're no different than the KKK! And where did they preach hatred against other races?
What you are ignoring is the evidence that the Black Panthers endorsed violence and preached hatred. Even if you agree with them, they are still a hate group. Attacking the FBI or anything they've done wrong in the past or at the present won't change that.
I'm just not going to give credence to a "hate group" designation given by Hoover, given how far gone he was in trying to take down anyone at the forefront of the civil rights movement. That said, I'm fine with focusing on their deeds and principles, and judging them accordingly. But I maintain that any historical analysis that ignores the context of the times, in this case the injustices black people were facing, is very flawed. Especially so when one is trying to argue based on a supposed moral equivalence.
That's just not true. They didn't preach hatred. They weren't known for hunting down white people and killing them. That's what the KKK did, indiscriminately killed black people. The founders of the party... “We have two evils to fight, capitalism and racism. We must destroy both racism and capitalism...” “We do not fight racism with racism. We fight racism with solidarity. " Also you have to realize that the New Black Panther Party literally has little to do with the old. The Original Black Panther Party tried to sue them for taking their name... http://www.forwardprogressives.com/exclusive-interview-bobby-seale-co-founder-black-panther-party/ Read this, read all of it. The Original Black Panther party wasn't against white people, it wasn't racist at all. It was against a RACIST government, which was a fact of the time they belonged to. In fact, the Black Panther party had White allies, Asian allies, Hispanic allies...because they were more socialist than anything racist. They worked with the Rainbow Coalition, I'll let you think about what that meant... Can you say the same for the Klan? Has the Klan had black members, Jewish members? The Klan is and has always been about White Superiority. You can say a lot of negative things about the Black Panthers but to compare them to the KKK is just wrong. They operated completely different and had a completely different set of goals.
Hey man, they were just expressing their second amendment right to use firearms to defeat tyranny as most white conservatives have day dreams of using the second amendment agaisnt Obama. According to white people second amendment logic, the Black Panthers were true patriots using their constitutional rights.
I get it, you want to make excuses for a hate group that you agree with. That's cool, but it won't change the facts. Also you giving credence to the designation is irrelevant because your opinion on the matter is irrelevant. It's pretty clear that your opinion is biased in that you agree with the hate group in question and that's the basis of your objection. You'd have no problem with the FBI designating other groups you don't agree with as hate groups. Someone could argue that the KKK wasn't a hate group because they agreed with them and I wouldn't care any more about their objections than I do yours. Someone could argue that the Westboro Baptist Church shouldn't count as a hate group because they agree with them and I'd ignore that nonsense too. I'm sure that some are upset that the Nation of Islam is considered a hate group but that's not my problem. Organizations like the Black Panthers who endorse violence and preach hatred should be considered hate groups.
Yes, bobby, rationally after being ****ted on for 400 years, people just MIGHT fight back. Mother ****ing white people wanted to rebel and leave the United States because OF ****ING TARRIFS in the 1820s, yet when black people experience 300 years of slavery and additional 100 years of police brutality, segregated education where they got the **** end of the stick, denying of housing loans which resulted in white flight and black people being stuck in urban decay, they can't be violent right? Because black people... I really don't see any excuse why black people didn't have the justifiable right to go postal in the 1900s and especially during the slave era. I mean, seriously, I bet some of you people would call blacks irrationally violent for starting a violent revolt during the SLAVE ERA as if black people don't have the basic human right to combat EXPLICIT TYRANNY.
It definitely feels like that. How many of the same people who lambaste the Black Panthers praise the Cliven Bundy crowd for 'sticking it to the feds'... by using firearms as a show of force... JUST LIKE THE BLACK PANTHERS DID except instead fighting for the right to heard some cattle on public land without paying, they were fighting for the right to NOT BE BEATEN THE **** OUT OF BY COPS, or being able to attend nicely funded schools to receive a proper education... How immoral of them
What do you mean by preach hatred? That's really what this comes down to, right? If you could point out some of the facts regarding how they preached hatred, then I may be convinced that you have a good point here.
Just so sad that the people who scream most about taking accountability and being responsible want to blame all the problems of America on the blacks, the Muslims, the left, Obama - and take none of that blame for their own closed-mindedness.
