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Police shoot a man in Baton Rouge, LA.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mr.Scarface, Jul 5, 2016.

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  1. jsingles

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    You need to understand what the legal definition of murder means. 90% of the people here see someone who dies and throws around the word murder. It's a very, very simple term, I wish a majority of the people here even know what it means.
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    You don't know that at all. As far as you know he might have just been thinking how wonderful it was in jail with 3 squares a day and not having to hawk CDs to perpetuate his existence. You're assuming way too much about his frame of mind and then extrapolating what that might mean about his behavior.

    You know, in the English language, we can use more than just legal definitions of things.
     
  3. jsingles

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    ......you understand that no matter what language you speak in. If you use a term in a manner that is incorrect, that makes you incorrect.
     
  4. Granville

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    So he resisted to get more time from an extra charge? What a dumb counterpoint....
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I mean c'mon, who doesn't want 10 years hard labor?
     
  6. RV6

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    regardless of why he resisted or if he didnt...why tackle someone from behind and take a poor angle trying to avoid a car? It was terrible execution of a take down by the cop..


    and again, compare the actions of one officer versus the other..the same cop who shot Sterling was the one who tackled him...the other cop did not seem to be on the same page on the tackle or the shooting.....like i said before, he drew his gun instinctively only because the more aggressive cop said "gun" but the rest of the time he never made an aggressive move towards Sterling (other than pinning his arm down, which he was already going and likely more in line with proper procedure).

    Also it seems like the less aggressive cop is the one who called in the shooting right away.

    Is it fair to look at both the same?
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    I understand you are mad when I call you when you give completely false info on guns but the facts are important here. Not only is what you said completely false (gun only goes off when someone pulls the trigger) but the implication in your response to Cohete Rojo is a far more important.

    The facts are important here CometsWin. If you don't know how guns work, don't just guess. People are trying to understand the facts and a misinformation campaign is not helpful.

    No. Carrying an unholstered gun in a pocket might be the least secure method, especially in a struggle.
     
  8. mr. 13 in 33

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    Officers involved in #AltonSterling shooting have history of complaints, records show. @gabegutierrez reports now
     
  9. Rocketman1981

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    I watched the Video:

    Cops show up and tell him to get on the ground.

    He doesn't get on the ground.

    There were calls about a large black man in a red shirt threatening people with a gun.

    One officer tries to take him to the ground and he fights.

    Other officer tells him not to resist and he continues to resist.

    Other officers shares that he has a gun on him.

    Officer tells him not to move or resist and he continues to.

    When taking a subject down, knowing he had a gun and was struggling and potentially going for the gun, the police must protect themselves first.

    It was a bad takedown by the first officer, but these two shouldn't be charged with anything.
     
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    If only the officer on top of him didn't un-holster his pistol, leaving him only one hand to prevent him from reaching for the gun (if he even did). Seems like a massive mistake.

    Edit: Does the officer say "he's going/reaching for the gun" right after one of them says don't move?
     
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    Raise salaries, raise standards, and you'll draw from a deeper well of talent that will be less likely to cause events like this.
     
  12. DreamShook

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    I don't know the protocol, but do Police usually ask the person if they have gun first if there was a report of a gun?
     
  13. DreamShook

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    How much money can you throw at unconscious racial bias?
     
  14. RV6

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    I'd probably want to hire strictly from the military. I'm not sure police academy alone is enough experience to be out there armed and in pressure situations..just have to filter out PTSD, but i'm assuming you can do that by focusing on those that didn't see much action, if at all.
     
  15. trustme

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    I can't believe there are people in here defending the cops. I would bet a million dollars these are the same ones that support trump.


    Seriously I haven't seen this kind of racism even in Saudi Arabia. I really thought racism was dying in America.
     
  16. RV6

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    i don't support trump at all...and I'm kind of defending one cop. Can you explain why the one cop wasn't showing the same aggression?
     
  17. CometsWin

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    It's just another isolated incident. Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck.
     
  18. amaru

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    I don't give a flying **** what the legal definition was. I know what I saw....and I know what that is. :rolleyes:
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    For sure cops need better training but it won't stop all incidents like this one when people are illegally carrying and they are resisting arrest. That said, better training and better standards would stop incidents like the one in Minnesota.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Clearly you don't if you thought it was murder. The incident in Minnesota was Voluntary Manslaughter, the incident in Baton Rouge is most likely justifiable homicide.
     

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