The police are crooked in America. Like just imagine how much BS they got away with before the advent of cell phones and cameras.
Christ, just executed him in cold blood The fact that they confiscated the video evidence and the body cam "fell" says everything about the situation.
The knee-jerk reaction I have is that guy should be fired instantly. That is such a horrible mentality to have, its poisonous. I have a similar friend. He is a rookie (1 year in). I can already hear the change in how he talks about things. He still seems like my old friend but he now thinks it is hilarious to give homeless people "courtesy rides" where they pick up a homeless person and drive them out of city limits and leave them on the side of the road. I made him explain it to me again and its what they do. It made me sick. It would be any homeless person, regardless if they were a nuisance or not. This guy was a freaking teddy bear growing up, one of the nicest guys I have ever known. He already has the us vs. them mentality with other situations too. Very troubling to see from an old friend. You should have heard the commencement speech at his graduation. It was very interesting to hear. The police chief was actually complaining about the "bad press" that police nationwide have been receiving recently. These attitudes won't change for a very long time. More and more people are going to be killed in a similar fashion until something changes.
forget about disarming the citizens!!! we need to disarm our police NOW!!! -edit- just fyi... i would support more arms restrictions against the public if the police had the same.
So the guy was threatening people to buy his CD's by brandishing and pointing his gun at them? And he's the victim?
The sad part about all of this is how many people will spend countless time trying to vilify Alton sterling. The man was shot point blank while being restrained on the ground. He was murdered. There's nothing else this can be called. The even sadder thing is no matter what happens nothing changes. There's a police problem in America. I will say not all police officers are bad, but the bad ones do stuff like this and tend to walk and nothing changes.
How do you know this is true? Store owner who was there did not see anything. http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/06/us/baton-rouge-shooting-alton-sterling/ Not quite brandishing and pointing. Store owner and witness claims the man did not pull the gun out during the altercation. http://www.wafb.com/story/32371223/...imes-to-chest-back-2-officers-placed-on-leave Having a gun in your pocket while being arrested does not warrant deadly force.
So what? If it's a case that the caller to 911 was lying then there should definitely be criminal charges against that person, but I haven't read anything regarding such an investigation.
Yeah...none of that matters because in the video we see the man detained and controlled and then shot. Are you arguing that he deserved to be killed without fair trial?? I really don't get it. I get it, I don't think the police just arrive at some random spot to rough up some guy and shoot him. They were called for a reason, and perhaps the guy did wave his gun around while selling CDs, doesn't mean he should get executed though.
Getting harder and harder to defend the police these days...... Random tidbit: I have a friend who was a police officer in Baton Rouge and ended up quitting the force after less than a year because of some shady stuff he saw. He wouldn't elaborate. He's now a HS teacher in Freeport. He wanted to GTFO of LA ASAP.
I had a hard time following him. He seems to be saying the 911 call matters more than actual situation faced by the cop. I thought he was trolling, but who knows... strange take.
I don't think I can come to the conclusion already that this was murder, but it doesn't look good for the cops. But, imo protests are justified here and in the other incidents. Even if it turns out the cops acted appropriately, the citizens have a right to demand transparency and accountability to make sure we have all the information we need to govern our police forces. If the caller was lying, how would they build a case now that the only sure witness is dead? It certainly doesn't say he brandished a gun to make someone buy a CD. We don't know why he allegedly brandished the gun, or who this caller was and what his motivation might be. It could be someone who doesn't like street hawkers and thought he might send a little police harassment the guy's way to deter him from being there. If the police were behaving appropriately, I'd like them to tell us who the complainant was and what interaction he had with the deceased that led to the gun being brandished. And, I would like them to explain why they thought deadly force was necessary when the man was already subdued. I don't have it out for cops; if they can give me reasonable answers, I can be content to allow their internal affairs process to sort it out. But, if they can't show they had reasonable cause for arresting him in the first place and/or can't show that deadly force was appropriate, I'm going to be vigilant in looking at what their internal processes produce.
I don't think I can handle another thread where the same people who advocate for unimpeded access to firearms somehow argue, in spite of video evidence, that the man deserved to be killed even if he had a gun in his possession. It's unrelated, but the "courtesy ride" angle is something that's been tangentially attributed to the murder of Haruka Weiser here in Austin. The homeless teenager charged with her murder was given such a ride into Austin city limits, across county lines, by an off-duty Georgetown police officer. It's a tactic to remove the homeless from counties that don't want them.
Black man always guilty until proven innocent in Rojo's world. Open-carry law only apply to white man
Not that it really matters, but this isn't true. The guy has at least 2 prior assault charges with one of them being domestic violence. He also has a gun charge from when he got busted selling weed, and he currently had a warrant out for his arrest for failure to register as a sex offender from when he got busted with an underage several years back. The guy was by no means a saint, but that doesn't really matter, you can't just shoot him. The video isn't really good enough to tell 100%, but I certainly didn't see him going for a gun so these cops very easily could end up with a murder charge.
You are right: the police should not have killed him. Instead of acting like a 17 year old, the 37 year old should have acted like a 37 year old. The police have a right to protect themselves. Obviously this guy wanted to do things the hard way.
The "hard way" seems to be applying due process to a situation, not jumping to killing a person if they resist arrest.
