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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. Commodore

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  2. Mr.Scarface

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    With Benghazi over and no indictment for emails, oh what will Fox News have to focus on now? There were stories EVERYDAY on one of those subjects. I guess the Clinton Foundation will now take on the "red meat" subject for Republic-drones.
     
  3. Rashmon

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    Rest assured, President Clinton will insure that this type of kerfuffle won't occur in her administration.
     
  4. TheresTheDagger

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    Was watching some former Intelligence professionals discussing this case tonight. They mentioned something I had not even thought of before.

    Comey in his statement said:

    What if a nation or organization hostile to the United States did access her account and is keeping the information they retrieved secret until they are able to use it to blackmail a future President Clinton?

    I mean, given what we know is it really that out of the question this can happen?
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I think that's perhaps the real story here. Government computer systems are crap. They're too slow to keep up with technology.
     
  6. BigDog63

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    All of them, or least almost all of them. We have corporate laptops, with security installed, and have security applications installed on any phone that accesses corporate systems. It is also forbidden to ever send a corporate email over a public email system, or to store corporate or client data on any non corporate storage platform. Any USB used to store any data has to be encrypted. Pretty typical for most corporations. Financial institutions are a lot more active, and will have even corporate computers very locked down in what they can access, and can't access. Internet usage, for example, will be blocked. I haven't worked at a company, or even heard of a major one, that doesn't have a policy on using only corporate email systems for corporate email. Otherwise they lose any ability to track, protect, or recover said emails...putting the company at risk.

    Next question?
     
  7. BigDog63

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    FWIW...your question, has no relevance to the discussion here. Who told Hillary she couldn't check her email out of the office or on her phone. The problem was that when she was doing so, it was on her unsecured server...which puts the onus back on her for setting it up that way in the first place. Glad you agree with those pointing this out.
     
  8. TheresTheDagger

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    THIS.^^

    I can also verify that the company that I last worked for (a LARGE financial institution) followed the above exactly....and more. I couldn't even have my personal phone turned on while at my workstation. Of course, I signed legal documents that made sure I was aware and held accountable for securing work information and devices AND I was required to attend classes instructing us what is and isn't permissible.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    No - you don't get it. If you get a laptop from the State Department and travel, you can't connect to any network except a state department network.

    So if you aren't at a state department office, you can't use your laptop and connect to the internet. No corporation has that requirement.
     
  10. TheresTheDagger

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    Incorrect. Refer to my post above. I couldn't connect to anything related to work even from my home...much less across the world.
     
  11. Space Ghost

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    "lol". Its a wonder how we get anything done in the world. "uhh sorry Mr. President, Im in Europe right now and you will just have to wait until I get back to DC before I can email you this really super top secret document".

    There are many ways to get onto a secure network. How do you think fluid battlefield communications get passed? walkie talkies from radio shack? If our troops can communicate on a secure network on the battlefield without a "mobile state department office", I think our secretary of state can find a way too. I understand youre technologically challenged, but please, find a better excuse to justify her actions.
     
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  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Do you really think the Pentagon is involved in Clinton's email? They don't issue her military tech. I'd think even you would know that.

    But that's exactly the issue. Clinton had to email go aheads for drone strikes while abroad and she used he blackberry - some of them needed decisions that instant.


    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/06/clinton-emails-discussed-drone-strikes.html

    Just saying you should know all the facts before making a mockery of something you don't know anything about.
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    Get with the program dude. You dont need 'military tech'. Do you really think Hillary is the only one with a security clearance and travels outside the US?? Most people who travel abroad and are on the government payroll have one.

    The point being, there are many many solutions out there that allow a government employee to get on a secure network nearly anywhere in the world. You're talking out of your ass as usual.
     
  15. okierock

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    At least Bill only lied about getting some tail from the intern...
     
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    sexual harassment trial.
     
  17. BigDog63

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    Why do you think they have that requirement? For security. So what would anybody be doing if they violated that requirement? Violating security.

    Where did Hillary travel to where there were no State Department offices? What email did she need there that was so vital it was worth putting national security at risk?

    You are aware, I assume, that Hillary inquired about the system that Obama had set up, and that it was offered for her IF she agreed to the policies around it, but that she refused. This was all about her not wanting to have to accede to FOI requests. So much for transparency, and put security at risk to boot.

    Doesn't seem like it is me that isn't getting it...
     
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    "But perhaps the strongest parallels can be seen with someone lower on the government totem pole. Bryan H. Nishimura, was sentenced to two years’ probation and $7,500 fine last year for holding classified materials on personal devices – without malicious intent, just like Hillary Clinton.

    “He carried such classified materials on his unauthorized media when he traveled off-base in Afghanistan and, ultimately, carried those materials back to the United States at the end of his deployment,” the FBI’s website says. “In the United States, Nishimura continued to maintain the information on unclassified systems in unauthorized locations, and copied the materials onto at least one additional unauthorized and unclassified system.”
     
  19. SamFisher

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    If that's the strongest parallel, you can see why the case against Hillary evaporated.
     
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    I want to urge my fellow CF'ers who are angry not to go out and start commiting crimes in frustration. You must remember, you are NOT a Clinton. You will have consequences and things will most likely not work out so well for you.
     

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