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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    It's like those who celebrated when OJ got away with murder.
     
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  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Why do I take glee in someone calling Obama worse than all the traitors executed in the history of the country? I think that's pretty self-explanatory.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Just say "because of partisanship" and move on.
     
  4. BigDog63

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    You do realize that the Dems have been doing just this for as long as I can recall. Right? ???

    This is the problem with politics. Everyone accuses the other side of all these sleazy tactics, yet is oblivious when their side does the.exact.same.thing. It used to be more prevalent on the Dem side, but I wouldn't make that claim currently. But, regardless...it's hardly unique to Republicans. Anyone who doesn't understand that is really too biased to have a discussion with..and is also a big part of the problem with politics. Politicians know their side will support them no matter what, so they indeed go ahead and tell bald faced lies. Why not?
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    The Clintons just win.
     
  6. Cohete Rojo

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    Or it's like those who celebrated when George Zi...ma invented the refreshing beverage, Zima. yay
     
  7. Newlin

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    It's true, they do. Even Chelsea can get 75,000 for a speech.
     
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  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Well, if you want to say that sending news articles about drones are national security documents, then that might explain your pov.

    The FBI looked at these 7 email chains out of thousands and thousands, and didn't see them as national security documents. But now that people didn't get the verdict they wanted from the FBI - clearly the FBI must be "corrupt".

    People just want to take Clinton down - this isn't about justice, it's about feeding the crocodiles - they want blood no matter what.

    Do I like Clinton? No. But I certainly don't think she should go to prison because she handled her work email differently than she should have. The fact is that the position of Sec of State - where you need to travel all over the world and check email is a bit ridiculous to say you can't check email from anywhere but your computer in D.C. How is someone suppose to do their job?????

    Powell used hotmail - which isn't any more secure and certainly had classified material.


    It's just so hilarious. If anyone actually cared about this issue, they'd raise the larger issue - should gov't officials even have email? Because there is no secure way to check your email if you are in a foreign country traveling. There's no discussion about that. Why? Because this isn't about security at all, it's about having a way to get rid of Clinton and win an election.

    That's why I don't care about it that much. because it's all politics - not about the issues that face our country.
     
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  9. Cohete Rojo

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    https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/p...lary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Different situation, no crime was committed in that instance.
     
  11. MojoMan

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    No, I never did.
     
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    Seriously, think of how many scandals they have skirted by and won -- it's amazing.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    They could shoot 20 babies in the face on national TV while standing on stage during the ball drop on New Year's Eve and they'd have millions of Democrats calling it a "faux scandal" and talking about how it was just a conspiracy to get them.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    ....and the probably wouldn't get prosecuted for it either.
     
  15. BigDog63

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    No, national security documents are those that are classified. Which the FBI detailed Hillary mishandled. Did you read any of the report, or just in full talking point mode? The FBI statement is pretty good, and takes all of maybe 5 minutes to read. There were 110 threads on her server that had classified documents, 7 of which were Top Secret. News reports aren't Top Secret or classified. The report also indicated a high degree of carelessness with such information...what is your talking point around that? People can still argue about whether or not what Hillary did was criminal and should be prosecuted, but there is no debate on whether or not she did anything wrong. Clearly, she did. Further, her laxness seemed prevalent throughout the entire State Department. Whether that was the case before she arrived, or due to her own carelessness...clearly she didn't do anything to clean it up. So, we have someone with very lax handling of Top Secret documents, and who did nothing to clean up the department she ran. Hardly good news for Hillary. Her credibility and trustworthiness were already concerns, this is just going to make those worse. And there is plenty in here that Republicans can continue bringing up that will exacerbate that. Her biggest strong point was that she was the only one qualified to be POTUS. That is mostly out the window now. At least very damaged by this report.
     
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    So the rule of law in this country has been sacrificed before our very eyes on the bonfire of the Democrat left's corruption and self-serving, short term power grasping, and you think that is funny.

    You don't care if Obama is an enemy to our nation, not really, as long as he is YOURS. You people are so spectacularly foolish in your base tribalism, I just really don't know what to say about that, other than that you are all willing accomplices to what has been done here, whether you later decide you don't like that or not, as I suspect that many of you eventually will.
     
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    FWIW, the report also indicates, as I said from day 1 of this issue, that Hillary's statements about doing this to avoid having to carry 2 different phones is completely false. Over the period in which she had these servers (plural, not singular) she had to carry multiple phones to connect to them. So, she was just plan lying. Criminal? No. But does it should hardly make you happy that your candidate for POTUS is a bald faced liar (multiple other examples of this). 'Well, she's a darn site better than Trump', while a valid feeling, certainly shouldn't override any concerns you *should* have over her lying. Is it really ok with you (you being anyone supporting Hillary) that she lies? She didn't lie to Republicans, she lied to you, too.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Let me ask you something. Would you rather have someone who was didn't follow the IT policy or someone who wouldn't follow any policy and completely screw up the country?
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    That's just dodging the issue. She's guilty of mishandling classified information due to her gross incompetence while Secretary of State and as such is unqualified to be the president's personal secretary or even a janitor at a SCIF.

    That's a fact, and it's undeniable.

    The fact that Trump is worse is not relevant when talking about what Hillary did. Trump doesn't make what she did better or worse. She's just a disaster of a candidate just like everyone else this cycle.
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    No, not even remotely to the same extent.

    Sorry, but you're wrong. The GOP lie machine is and has been dramatically worse than anything the Dems have ever engaged in and it isn't even close.

    I don't remember the Democrats ever being the party that simply lies as often and as loudly as they can, perhaps that was before my time, but I'm pretty old, so I doubt it.

    While I agree that it isn't "unique," it also isn't "equal."

    Some politicians do, without doubt. However, ignoring Bull**** Mountain while claiming that the Democrat Molehill is even remotely comparable shows that you really are "too biased to have a discussion with."
     

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