Kent Bazemore meeting with Rockets as we speak (UPDATE: Signs with Hawks)

That's up for debate, Middleton obviously still has a strong season last year, but his scoring was up mainly related to the more minutes he played and more shots he's getting, his % actually was down from previous year.

But bottom line, he is a decent and good player a year before he signed his new deal, a year later, he is still a good player, but no way near a star player yet.

 

True, but KJ's making $3.1 and Bazemore isn't that much better than him where we should overspend and pay him a low 8-figure per year contract.

 

OK, thank you Clutch, I don't know you actually will post under different account.

Or you actually took too much cracks and somehow believe you are the president of North Korea now?

Are you going to press that nuke button or what?

 

This all reminds me of when Morey traded for Lowry. Everyone went Berzerker because he hadn't put up very big numbers and was third string on a garbage team. But his stats really did look like someone who could flourish if given the opportunity. I think the same thing rings true here. Some players put up decent numbers in small samples, but it doesn't hold up after a usage increase. Bazemore appears to get better the more minutes he gets.

 

Most of you seem to have the guess that we will pat about 15 mil /yr for Kent !!

So wrong because the going price for such a player is 19 to 20 mil /year.
Just look at what some players are getting and you will waken so very quickly.
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sorry vivi I'm getting lose with all the news. Can you point me to teh direction of codman's post? Thanx.

 

So wrong because the going price for such a player is 19 to 20 mil /year.
Just look at what some players are getting and you will waken so very quickly.
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Not defending a Bazemore signing, but KJ McDaniels have never cracked 30% as a 3 point shooter. His effective fg% is basically 45%.

Bazmore isn't a great 3 point shooter, but he has demonstrated he can be about a 36% shooter from 3 and his effective fg% is 50%.

He's clearly a better shooter. McDaniels has a broken shot. They've been trying to rebuild it since he entered the league.

 

forget raw numbers. He straight up added new things never seen before. PLaymaking and ballhandling. He was a weak ballhandler and the next year out of the blue started running pnr.

He's not a good example because he was only 23 when getting paid and it's an abnormality for someone to improve his handles in a single year.

 

Conley thread

 

no are you r****ded? get this through your thick greasy head.

harden is bouncing when his contract is up in 2018. you might as well trade him and start the rebuild. we can get a very good haul for him if we do. we are seriously in a bad spot right now.

 

I wouldn't think the Bazemore plan would be to dump Ariza, I think it would be to setup a lineup that had Harden at the 1 with Ariza and Bazemore on the wings.

You'd have a lot of flexibility to run lineups that had Bev or Harden at the 1 and go small or big with ease using combos of Ariza, Horford and Monty at the 4 and Horford Monty and Capela at the 5.

 

Beaten by larsv but i leave this here http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=10580001&postcount=65

 

Overspend on a worse player we already own for cheap? Na. Adding Bazemore at that price tag, makes KJ more valuable to other teams because his price tag is so cheap. Teams who can't afford roll players at today's market price will be more willing to trade if they have the depth to.

 

thanx.
Repped both of you.

why does a good poster like you only have a single green bar?

 

But that's the key here,

last season before we sign KJ, we already pretty much know he isn't really that good but because he is young and there could be room for improvement, and thats' why we took a leap of faith.

And more importantly, that leap of faith priced at a MUCH LESS than what we are looking at right now, at Bazemore.

You can get out of this mistake (or rather gamble if you like the term) of KJ signing rather easily and harmless, but Bazemore? with this price tab?

 

I don't think there is a definitive plan.

However, the value of Ariza in the trade market is as high as it ever will be. He is coveted by contenders and will only cost $8,000,000. That is premium value for a team that needs a 3-D rotation player that is solid.

Brewer is certainly movable.

The thought would be that if you move Ariza and Brewer (16 million) and sign Bazemore (20 million) you upgrade your SF position, only take a minimum cap hit and also get assets for Ariza.

However, you are right, the Rockets could go extremely small and athletic and roll with Ariza at the 4 and Capela at the 5, with Bazemore at the 3 and Harden at the two.

 

Can't say I'm a huge Kent Bazemore expert here. What I do know is that if Bazemore is who I think he is, I'm not sure you're really solving any major pressing issues, but his playmaking skills are the big question I have. In years past he'd be a prototypical full MLE type of role player wing whose a versatile player who can defend and score, but not someone you can run your offense through.

For years the Rockets have been trying to put a playmaking PG next to Harden to take the ball out of his hands some, and allow him to play off the ball some or simply take pressure off of Harden.

I really think that the SF spot really should be where the Rockets should focus at improving and I've been saying that since about the trade deadline when it obvious that Ariza (while crucial in some areas) was killing the Rockets because the ball always found him when the ball needed to move, and it was either jack up a contested 3, or awkwardly drive to the basket leading to a killed possession.

Parsons' little bit of playmaking and driving ability at the 3 really made the Rockets click. Again... watch the Rockets offense in clips. The Ball ALWAYS finds Ariza almost as if its by design when the ball moves... and It dies there. I have to think that if Bazemore can do at least what Parsons was able to do at the 3 from a playmaking perspective he's worth the pay-day. If anyone can tell me how his playmaking compares to Parsons at the 3 I'd appreciate it.

Also I don't think the Rockets should pursue Parsons back although he was a great fit back in the day. He thinks he's a superstar now, and has major health red flags. He also burnt bridges here. If there is someone as good or better at the 3 we need to jump on that.

The PG spot can be "okay" with Pat Bev another year. I think 3 and D works better than a PG that needs the ball in his hands to be effective PG like Lawson obviously. However the Rockets need to keep pulling in the Gary Payton Jr. types to groom someone to ultimately beat out Pat for the starting role. I love Pat's resolve but he's not a very good NBA player as a full time starter. They need to upgrade eventually.

Also wouldn't mind trying to get Isiah Canaan back. Think he's a good fit as a spot up 3 point shooter next to Harden ALA Eddie House with the Heat next to Wade. If they can bring him back on the cheap that would be great.

 

Thanks, i don't know (not that i care though ), maybe cause i'm a rookie :grin: