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[Official] Astros @ Royals

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. UTAllTheWay

    UTAllTheWay Member

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    It's completely insane to me that a Triple and a grand slam in the same inning by the same person has happened more than once before.
     
  2. jsingles

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    Give that man a hit!
     
  3. cangrejero51

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    I know that, but K has a plus 5 ERA and a whip over 1.38 because he is getting hit hard with his fastball, not only tonight, but on the season, the question is why?
    He has same K amount of K per 9 from last year, and walks has increased from 2.0 to 2.8, but the only major difference are hits. He is not getting hit hard from change ups and breaking balls, is the fastball, again, why?
    Two reasons, not throwing as hard, and missing high, exactly what is going on tonight.

    With a 12 to 0 lead, good moment to work on throwing your fastball low.

    Tonight the breaking ball and change up have been good.
     
  4. Nick

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    And yet everybody knows the story of the two grand slams in one inning, by the same guy, on opposite sides of the plate!

    That, to me, will never be topped.
     
  5. mugrakers

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    Berkman?
     
  6. Rox Addict

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    Keuchel is still not sharp !!!!!
     
  7. kaleidosky

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    I swear, if b****ing starts on that HR..
     
  8. jsingles

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    Was really hoping this game would start to lower his ERA, not happening. Hard to find faults in an 8-run lead in the 7th, but Dallas has to be sharper.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    Not sure how anyone can watch this game and point to his statline to say he pitched well.

    I understand it's different pitching with a huge lead, but he's consistently been hit hard tonight.
     
  10. rezdawg

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    It's been the whole game...no b****ing should start after that HR. He's off.
     
  11. kaleidosky

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    I wouldn't say he's pitched well. But he hasn't pitched horribly either. Pitched out of a couple of jams, induced weak grounders like the good version of him is apt to do.. I liked some of what I saw.

    I think the point about pitching with a huge lead is that we can't use this outing to accurately evaluate where he is--whether a good or bad or mediocre outing
     
  12. jsingles

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    He hasn't, I agree you pitch differently with a huge lead, not wanting to go all out. But like mentioned before, his ERA is sky high, I think we'd all rather he work on lowering it in a game like this and not a nail biter where he might be over doing it and creating his own issues.
     
  13. cangrejero51

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    4 runs in 6 innings, not good
     
  14. kaleidosky

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    This inning has been among the worst, for sure. Along with those early hard hit balls in the 1st or 2nd (forget which had multiple in a row)
     
  15. HTOWNTAKEOVER

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    wtf hinch doing...take him out idiot
     
  16. Nick

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    Nobody is saying that at all.

    He pitched much better against the Reds, was unhittable for the first 4 innings against the Rays (best he's looked all year), and pitched into the 8th against the Rangers the start before that.

    And yet this will be the only start he gets a win out of... which simply points out the total absurdity of judging pitchers by wins/losses.
     
  17. rezdawg

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    I agree...the only thing that worries me is that Ive seen some of the same tendencies and results that have caused him to have such an underwhelming season.

    If the Astros want to make noise in the postseason, Kuechel needs to be an ace. With every outing, it seems more and more likely that he's just a mediocre pitcher, at least for this season. I really hope he can turn it up come september.
     
  18. cangrejero51

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    Hinch, take the guy out, pleaseeeeee, this guy can't go 7 anymore
     
  19. rezdawg

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    Yeah, win/loss is silly. But Dallas has had a bunch of games this season where he looks like a stud for 4-5 innings, and then he just gets completely lit up the next. It's just not acceptable if you plan on being an "ace", which is what concerns me the most.
     
  20. kaleidosky

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    I'm with you. But there's nothing (short of possibly a DL stint if there's any chance it would help) they can do besides let him try and pitch his way back and/or working on specific things on the side, which I'm sure he's doing.
     

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