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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    I dunno, isn't he 8-3 with a 3.2something ERA?

    What if he's 10-3? What then, bob? How many other pitchers will bow out of the shennanigans because they just pitched or they're tired or something? They may need a replacement....

    Cuanto cuesto Sr. Bob?
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I stand by my bet. No caveats. I suspect he will get 3 more starts. Even at 11-3 with a 3.20 or so ERA, I say he won't make it. Not that he won't deserve it, but that he won't make it.
     
  3. kaleidosky

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    I could see that. I'd say Altuve and Harris are most likely to make it, and Correa and Springer have lesser shots (in that order). I have to put Fister 4th or 5th on that list of most likely to make it, and they can't really justify more than 3 from a team with a .500ish record typically.

    As Buck said, perhaps some guys will bow out due to pitching timing, and that might make Fister more likely than Correa/Springer when all is said and done. I'm hopeful, but also not expecting
     
  4. cangrejero51

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    Ok, let me explain myself.

    The poster said it was a weak FA for starters, I AGREE. Is so bad that right now the BEST FA in Fister. What do you want me to say? Numbers say he is the best right now. Where am i saying i was RIGHT about Fister???? No, i was wrong, but because i was wrong i have to continue to talk bad about Fister?????

    What you see wrongdoing from my part i see it admitting the good from a guy that i said should not be in the rotation with the Astros out of ST.
    Now, i am worried about his fastball, that is for sure.

    Lets talk about Sipp. What do you want me, to defend hm even tough he is not pitching good?
    yes, i said it was a MUST to re sign him, why? Because we don't have any left handed pitcher option in the minors, none. If it was a righty, i would say, let him go, we have Hoyt, but we don't have any other option. Actually, our only option we trade him to Milwaukee, Hader.

    Because you write one way, and you write the way you want, i don't have to do it the same way.
    Now, like i have said many times, I WILL CALL IT AS I SEE, THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY.

    Tonight Hinch did a great job, what do you want me to say, nothing????? So i can only say bad things about Hinch because i have to take a "stand"? Because he had a good night, and i feel he does something wrong i have to say nothing????

    Yes, i was wrong about Fister, but look, i was right about Straily. I was wrong about Lowrie (he is hitting .290 for the A's) but i was right about Villar. Right now i am wrong about Sipp (he will do much better) but i was right about Feliz. And we can go on and on.

    I thought Luthnow made a great trade getting rid of Lowrie's contract, and look at him, hitting .290. Last year i said i prefer Villar over Lowrie, and one forum member laughed at me, and said i was crazy, well, Villar hit .284 and look what he is doing in Milwaukee.

    I don't care if i am wrong and admit it.
    Look at tonight, I said McHugh struggled, and even called him McOuch, but i also said, with all those righties, he was only going to allow 2 runs, meaing, i was expecting him to pitch a good game. Now, he do need to improve that first inning, would you agree on that one?????
    I don't think McHugh is a number 2 pitcher, do you agree on that one? Now, i do like him as a number 4, for me he is a very good number 4 starter.
    For this team to succeed we need K and McCullers to dominate, and become number 1 and 2 starter. Then Fister continue to pitch the way he is, and becoming a good number 3. McHugh a very very good number 4 and Fiers, as number 5 it would be great. Now, maybe McHugh will take the 3 over Fister because he can go deeper into games IF he is able to fix that 6 inning problem where he is giving 7 ERA on that inning.

    Many laughed when last year i started that rotation argument and many laughed, but look at this year, many are talking about how important is to have those number 1 and 2 starters. Look at how many poster are saying we have a lot of number 4-5 starters.

    I have no problem saying the good things from a player even if i had said negative things in the past, on the CONTRARY, i want to give credit when credit is due, ESPECIALLY IF I HAVE BEEN TOUGH ON HIM IN THE PAST.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    I will trade you one pound of Texas beef jerky against one pound of smoked whitefish or whaterver the hell you squareheads do up there. ;)

    Deal?

    (honesly, his stats outside of W/L and ERA kind of terrible, this may be a sucker bet)
     
  6. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    My point is that you have a difficult time in this forum. A few reasons are:

    - Your extreme switches on players
    - Your giving up on the team after 2 hitters (for example which you did one game)
    - Your phrasing - for example, regardless of what you say, McHugh was not 'bad' in the first inning today and he did not 'struggle' in the 6th. Your reasoning that he was 'bad' in the first was due to his 9.00 ERA and 3.00 WHIP (ridiculous examples but let's apply them to the 6th inning where he had a 0.00 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP). Do you see how even when you tried to prove your point, your reasoning fails for the 6th inning?
    - Your claims of being 'right' so often when you are just as wrong as any of us.

    I'm just trying to give you some advice. You can take it or leave it.
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I'll send you some Lutefisk if he makes the all star team. :)
     
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  8. Scottay

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    No one cares if you were right or wrong. We care about the Astros.

    Heck of a win tonight. 'Los is so clutch. I live in VA and family FaceTimed me from back home (in Houston) right after the walkoff. That's what a good 'Stros team does for Houston; connects everybody. This team has already been written off a few times. Great to see them keep their poise and get back in the mix.

    Agree with others that we need another OF/DH bat. Colby is killin' me, but it seems like he is about the same guy he has been his whole career. I'm sure he'll heat up again at some point, but I'd prefer him as the 4th OF.
     
  9. kaleidosky

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    I'm enjoying this late night wager, guys. Please post pics of said meats when the bet is settled and post on here :cool:
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need lye in my fish. I do like me some smoked trout though.

    This is what you're playing for...best in CenTex, I've shipped it to buddies in the ME before, so Minnesota shouldn't be too difficult.

    http://www.whittingtonsjerky.com/
     
  11. cangrejero51

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    I belive Colby is hitting over .300 with RISP plus is a very good defense in the OF.

    Now, he is NOT a guy that should be hitting 4th in any major league team, but that is not his fault.
     
  12. cangrejero51

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    Advice well taken.

    Now, i don't think i have extreme switch on players, i just call it as a i see it. If K is having a great game, i will say it. If he struggles, i will also say it.
    About me saying game over, well, let me tell you one thing, i am not giving on my team, why? I don't know if you are from Houston, but i am not, so the Astros are my team BY CHOICE, not because i am born, raise, or living in the city of Houston. Now, this is a team that has NEVER won a World Series, only one time in the World Series, AND I AM STILL AN ASTROS FAN? If there is a fan that has not give on this team is ME.
    I have said game over against us, and game over for us.
    When i say game over is when we are struggling, we are not scoring runs, and we are facing a great pitcher, and i don't think we are going to come back an win the game. Now, i will tell you one thing, so what if i say game over? or if other member say game over? This is a forum of ALL ASTROS FANS. Like a family, we can all talk as we wish because we are all in the same boat. If we win, we are happy, if we lose, we are all unhappy.

    Now, if we go to another forum, we are going to talk differently. Do you think i go to a Rangers fan forum and trash the Astros??? No, in that forum i am going to defend them. But in a forum were all are Astros fan, we can be more open and say things as we see them.

    About the third thing, yes, for whatever reason McHugh allows runs in the 1st and 6th. Tonight he allowed a run in the first, and in the 6th he had a men on third with no outs, and Correa caught a line drive i think by Cron. So even on a day where he had GREAT STUFF, out of 7 innings, he was scored in 2 innings, one was the first inning, and 6th he was almost score. Why? Well, the 6th is probably because he is starting to pitch for the third time the top of the lineup (this game it was that way, Trout, 4th and 5th hitter) and first well, maybe not ready to pitch out of bullpen warm up.
    Yes, I agree with you, he did not struggle in that he was hit hard, but he did struggled that other team was close on scoring, but yes, you are right, i was wrong, is not that he was hit hard or things like that, it was that he had to struggle to only allow 1 run in the first and he did had to struggle to leave men on third with no outs. He pitched very good tonight.

    But guys, i will tell you, there are so many things going in the world, why get pissed because one forum member says "game over", or says that Hinch sucks? Look, that position will be scrutinize and that is part of the job. Let people talk, and talk, and talk, if is BASEBALL.

    I don't get into the insults and things like that, i do get involved in baseball talk even if i don't get one reply, i don't care.

    I love to learn, and i wish to learn at least one new thing each day, so i will continue to read and get involved in baseball talk in this forum or other forums even if i am not reply.
     
  13. cangrejero51

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    Now for tomorrow, wish we see this lineup:

    1. Springer
    2. Gonzalez
    3. Altuve
    4. Correa
    5. Rasmus
    6. Gomez
    7. Valbuena
    8. Worth
    9. Castro

    Why Worth, he is hitting the ball well, and the pitcher struggles vs righties. Gattis is struggling vs righties and after catching a night game, tomorrow is a day game, so let give him a rest, plus last 28 days he is hitting only .187 (but 7 homers in 91 at bats).
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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    This is the AL now, random lineups only help if you tell us what position they're playing.
     
  15. The Beard

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    Hard to say, but my guess would be Jake or Feldman

    Wasn't it just after the trade deadline last year where we went from 13 to 12 pitchers? Could see Devenski in a deal also, depending on who it was with and what their situation is

    I just think a guy like Valbuena has limited trade value and we couldn't get back what he is giving. Plus, when Reed gets here I know they want him to be a full time guy, but reality is he isn't likely to help vs LhP this year, and if we go into September in contention he would more likely be yet one more platooning guy down the stretch.
     
  16. bigdaddy

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    Good stuff, I lived in Johnson City for a couple of years, my wife was raised there.
    Definitely a good prize for a bet.
     
  17. cangrejero51

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    Worth DH, others in the positions they play.

    Only reason i did not give postions on the field in case Hinch wants to use Worth in the field and give a player a "day off" as a DH.
     
  18. stobbartjohn

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    This is fun. Can I play?

    Tonight Lance will struggle mightily. He will be dreadful but he will have a great game.

    Correa will strike out a ton and basically be useless but he will be fantastic and win the game for us whilst Gattis will have lots of RBIs but probably won't have any RBIs.

    Let's see if I'm right later!
     
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  19. juicystream

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    So glad we got the win last night. McHugh pitched extremely well and the offense was getting some great swings that kept being warning track shots. Very good to see Carlos Correa be the star we've been waiting to see.

    Carlos Gomez showed off why he has struggled so much. That 3-0 swing of his he really dropped his body down on (on a ball that was near chest level). The next at bat he hits the ball to deep center, he kept himself very level.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Yep. Nothing wrong with swinging on 3-0 and nothing wrong with the pitch he swung at - possibly borderline high, but right down the middle - just that the execution was bad.
     

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