Figure out what you'd want if the Astros were trading Altuve... and add another couple high level prospects and/or established players due to the fact that Sale is a young lefty ace.
What about Julio Teheran as a SP target? He's 25 and under control till 2020. Ken Rosenthal linked him to the Rangers, and said that Atlanta would want a player like Jurickson Profar for Teheran.
Sonny Gray & Khris Davis or Danny Valencia for Musgrove, Brady Rodgers, Fisher & Tucker/Kemp No trade expert but that seems realistic. Need a high end starter bad & RH bat. Danny Worth ain't gonna get it done
Better throw Martes in there if you want to get that deal done. Yes I would do that deal. I think Gray will make it back to ace status and everybody knows how much I like Valencia. What do y'all think it will take to get Valencia? Probably Devenski or Musgrove, Rodgers and P. Tucker.
That won't happen, look at what Shelby Miller cost them Inciarte, Aaron Blair and Swanson. So, Bregman would have to be there, Blair was a top 3 prospect for Arizona, so we would have to give a major arm from the minors, and Musgrave is not as good as Blair, and they also gave a very good cfer in Inciarte is only 24 and hit .303 last year for Arizona. What offer can we give for Teheran who i think is better than Miller? I think they would ask for Springer.
well for one, i would hope luhnow isnt dumb enough like the dbacks. the same dbacks who didnt get anything back when they traded justin upton.
Any trade for a true ace pitcher, whether it's Gray, Sale, Greinke, Archer, or whoever, is going to be very painful for Houston if it goes down. You don't acquire a player like that without overpaying, whether in trade or free agency. Teheran may be different, since he is not at that level, but he will still require a very good package of prospects. If Houston were able to keep Bregman out of the deal it would likely have to include K Tucker. Musgrove, Martes, and K Tucker might be close.
I doubt Greinke goes on the market, but how much could he cost? He just signed a massive deal at the free agent cost. Dbacks would have to eat a lot of money to get much back. Sonny Gray would be a good target, but I think Beane is going to wait for Gray to build back some value, and possibly wait until the offseason or next year to move him. He is the most likely target of the bunch though. Archer, like Sale signed an extension and is on a great deal for several years. I don't see him getting traded. Smyly and Moore are more likely to be moved, but would either be a big enough improvement? Steve Pearce will also be available to fill our 1B gap. They also have another former Astro in Xavier Cedeno that would be a good lefty out of the pen. I'm hoping the team can find a taker for Neshek to open a spot for a 2nd LHP or Hoyt. The other option on our team to move is Feldman, but I don't see that happening given how good he has looked out of the pen. I expect Fiers could be part of a trade for another starter.
I think the most likely scenario this year is for Houston to stand pat unless there's a significant injury before the deadline. They have a good team and have the high-end prospects near ready if they need reinforcements. Their main holes are in next year's roster. I could see them adding a versatile corner bat with additional year(s) of control to plug in at 1B/3B/DH as needed. Steve Pearce, Danny Valencia, and Yangervis Solarte are 3 guys that come to mind. I don't think they will trade anyone away unless they get overwhelmed.
My biggest concern re: trading is that our farm is so deep that teams seem to exploit it. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems like the price for player X is higher for the Astros (as opposed to a team with a more depleted farm) because we have more, and better, prospects as a whole. In essence, teams exploit our depth even though a fairer price is available I haven't found a deal yet where we haven't overpaid in comparison to what likely would've gotten said deal done with another team. Obviously that hypothesis is impossible to test, but that's just the impression I get when I look at these deals and rumors. That said, maybe I'm just biased towards our own prospects.
Despite our winning ways, I think Luhnow should be asking Stearns about Braun and trying to bring him to Houston for the playoff run. I think his contract and injury/PED history make him obtainable without selling the farm. Add him to LF and bring up Reed and we're in business. You can move Rasmus to the 4th outfielder and platoon Marwin and Valbuena at 3B.
Would be a great get. I'm sure he's asking. All depends on the price...and the Brewers are probably waiting until the deadline to see if they can get better offers. They have no reason to rush it with Braun playing so well
Most fans would say this about their team but I don't think it's true. Just take a look at the Shelby Miller trade for evidence the Astros aren't getting taken advantage of more than other teams. Oakland gave up Addison Russell for Samsrdzija. It looks like Houston gave up a lot for Gomez/Fiers, but it wasn't epic; 1 top 100 guy, 2 fringe MLB ready upside plays, and 1 high upside arm isn't a ton for s bonafide All Star CF with another year of control and a decent BoR Sp. And Mengden/Nottingham didn't seem like an overpay; now it looks like theA's did a good job of scouting the Astros system. Atlanta hasn't gotten much out of the Gattis trade yet. Now that VV has cooled off and Appel is back to a bust, that trade doesn't look harsh.
I'm still in shell shock as to how much a ML talent costs. Seeing how much Giles, Gattis, Gomez + Fiers, cost the Astros was eye opening. Sure prospects fail rate is high, even top prospects, but the cost is high. Investing 3-5 years developing a prospect just to trade him for a journeyman is tough to watch. But as they say you can't play them all. I won't root for any trades right now, but the cost for an Ace like Sales will be high, Bregman, Reed, Martes, Tucker, and probably Paulino. And if the really put the screws on the Astros, they request McCullers or Feliz too.
I like Smyly a lot, he is a very good pitcher. Moore before the injury was very good, former All Star, i like that this year he K per 9 has gone up from last 2 years, and walks down but right now he is not a very good pitcher, more or less average. Fiers numbers are better this year, and certainly the past 2. Now, Smyly, yesssssssssssssssssss but is going to cost us a lot, he is under club control until 2019.
