Nope didn't happen... He could have still told Jon off screen This little girl is so bad ass... I'm pretty sure we'll see some of her in the aftermath at Winterfell. I really enjoyed how the shield Jon used against Ramsey's arrows was a Mormont shield. ****ing bad ass that at least one of them made into WF.
For those saying that it was predictable......didn't that make it sort of unpredictable? In this show how many things look straightforward and then aren't? How many times does it look like the "good guys" are about to get a win only for it to fall apart at the last second? Things actually working out for the good guys was something we've rarely seen in this show especially when it comes to a Stark.
What happened to the traitor Harald Karstark? They showed Smalljon Umber eating it but wonder if the Karstarks got away. Gotta think that the wildlings will be given the Umber or Glover's territory.
I was wondering what happened with Lyanna Mormont. I can't imagine her people letting her into the battle. She just went MIA after she gave Ramsey quite possibly the most badass look before the battle.
Indeed, that is the way I look at it. Law of averages and also not everything has a twist although that is what I initially loved about the show. I do think there are still some twists to be made but this episode was about war and nothing else. Very well done.
The people complaining about it being too predictable are probably the ones that spend all their free time breaking down each frame of next weeks preview to come up with theories that end up being wrong 95% of the time anyway.
Unclear to his fate. Shireen getting burned. He's demanding Melissandre to tell Jon what happened to Shireen.
I think they should've done the Umber double cross. That would've been the shock factor that would throw everyone off. All the events leading up to it left that possibility wide open.
I would think they'd get the Umber's territory. Umbers are the northernmost family, and I doubt Sansa/Jon will feel any mercy for them since they gave Rickon to Ramsay. As for the Glover's, did they join in the fight on behalf of the Bolton's? Or did they just not side with Jon?
Or anyone who has seen Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers was able to predict what would happen. I don't see anyone here saying "oh it was predictable so it sucked!", most are saying "it was predictable, but it was amazingly filmed". Which it was on both counts.
On being predictable: I don't see why that's a complaint on this occasion. They've been working all season to build to this climax. Are you saying they shouldn't have done all that work? Or that they should have and then pitched it all in the bin to do something off the wall? Otherwise: Agree it was beautifully shot. My wife got bored of all the chaos battle scenes that don't do much to move the plot. And, I was kinda surprised they didn't deal with anything besides Winterfell and Mereen. It doesn't look to me like they'll do a lot with the undead in the last episode because they have to spend all their time getting to the end of the paragraph on all the other story lines.
Didn't see the Glover's sigil in the fight, and seemed understood that they were trying to stay out of it all by the way they spoke to Jon and Sansa a few episodes ago. Also no sign of the Manderlys, and House Reed which are two very important houses and likely future allies to rally behind Jon and Sansa. However the support of House Glover would seem to be one of the more significant with their hold of Deepwood Motte. I also wouldn't be shocked if we learn next episode that the Karstark guy is still alive and bends the knee to Jon/Sansa. I didn't see him die in the battle, and he was right next to Ramsey in the battle. He should be executed, but wouldn't shock me if they offered him a chance to keep his head (sort of a reverse of Robb's decision to execute their father). The big picture though - But all of the Northern Lord's support pails in comparison to what Jon & Sansa have to deal with from Littlefinger and the Vale. Littlefinger will surely expect something in exchange for him essentially winning their battle for them. What he wants is anyone's guess, but if I had to guess it would be support a claim for him to reach the iron throne, and destroy the Lannisters. From Littlefingers perspective, the only backing the Lannisters have is House Tyrell and he must think that he can get them to turn on the Lannisters easily. Keep in mind he holds Harrenhal since Tywin named him the Lord of Harrenhal back in season 3 I think. This is an incredibly important strategic stronghold even though its abandoned. With Sansa at his side he can rally both the North and the Riverlands, and have the Tyrells there to double cross the Lannisters leaving them high and dry to fight everyone alone. Its a good plan but there is something that Littlefinger probably isn't considering that we already know.... There is a chick with 3 Dragons, a Dothraki horde, the second sons, thousands of unsulied, and a recently acquired Ironborn fleet about the cross the narrow sea.... Oh, and I think its safe to predict that Vary's went to Dorne to gain their support and entry to Westeros as well for Danny. If Jon & Sansa back Littlefinger to overtake the iron thrown (which I am guessing/crack-potting), that will put them in direct line to face off with The Targaryan forces next season, or at the end of the series. So the big question is really... does Littlefinger seek the Iron Throne?? If that's the case (and by all accounts it fits his character) do the Starks support his claim??... The probably are obligated to at this point, and we all know that they owe it to the Lannisters to take them out as retribution for Ned, Robb, Catlyn's, etc. death. Or Littlefinger's plan will change to try and unite everyone by Marrying Danny???.... that seems pretty unlikely though IMO. I think he wants to unite the 7 by Marrying Sansa the Wardeness of the North.
Kings Landing is filled with people to hate. Sam ran into them when Gilly and him made it south of the wall. Bran saw Jon there with the wildlings via warging into his direwolf, and then again at Craster's Keep, but decided not to reveal himself to Jon because Jon would have stopped him from continuing his journey. They certainly know Bran wasn't killed by Theon (since Theon/Ramsey told Sansa), but they don't know if he is still alive. At best Jon could know that Bran was trying to get North of the Wall via Sam, but after what Jon has seen, how could it be expected that a cripple could survive there? Yes, Robyn Arryn is Sansa's cousin and Lord of the Vale. However, Robyn loves his uncle Petyr, and I think his last interaction with Sansa was her slapping him in the face, so he may not care for her. They didn't know each other prior to Sansa arriving at the Vale following Joffrey's assassination.
