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Curry Fined... if it was anyone else...

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by lnchan, Jun 17, 2016.

  1. celebrevida

    celebrevida Member

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    And why should Curry get harsher treatment in a Game 7 of all places when players did the same thing in the past in meaningless regular season games and did NOT get suspended? And in fact players have done WORSE than what Curry did and not get suspended?

    The only time they did suspend is when you direct something at a referee. Has Curry threw it in the direction of a referee then you have a point. But throwing it into the stand has pretty much never resulted in a suspension.

    Let's be fair and objective here.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/6/17/11962842/steph-curry-mouthpiece-fan-nba-finals-suspension-fine

    March 3, 2016: Jerami Grant throws a water bottle at a fan while writhing in pain under the basket after a hard foul. He wasn't intending to hit anybody -- he was writhing in pain and just throwing something in anger -- but he is fined $10,000 and not suspended.

    Oct. 30, 2015: Austin Rivers throws a seat cushion into the stands after returning to the bench. Although he was throwing it without looking and clearly didn't intend to hit anybody, he ends up nailing a fan in the face, knocking out one of her contact lenses. He is fined $25,000 and not suspended.

    March 31, 2015: Glen Davis lazily kicks a seat cushion while coming off the floor, which flies into the stands where a fan catches it. He is fined $15,000 and not suspended.

    Dec. 13, 2015: While play is still going on, Matt Barnes kicks a water bottle into the stands. He also curses out a few fans after kicking the water bottle at them. A repeat offender, Barnes is fined $25,000 and not suspended.

    Dec. 9, 2014: Enes Kanter throws his mouthpiece into the stands after disagreeing with a foul call and is ejected. The mouthpiece doesn't appear to hit anybody -- a fan proudly holds up the gross souvenir before security guard takes it away. Kanter is fined $25,000 and not suspended.

    Nov. 11, 2013: Dwight Howard casually tosses a ball at a fan after a foul call. He's hit with a technical foul and fined $25,000, but not suspended.

    Nov. 26, 2012: Aaron Brooks throws his mouthpiece into the stands after a no-call leads to a Gordon Hayward game-winner. He is fined $25,000 and not suspended.

    Feb. 2, 2012: A ball bounces to Mavs coach Rick Carlisle after a Russell Westbrook dunk, and rather than returning it to the referee, he punts it into the stands where it bounces around and drills a fan in the back of the head. Carlisle apologizes quickly, but the ref ejects him from the game instantly. He is fined $35,000 and not suspended.

    January 3, 2011: Paul Pierce lightly tosses a piece of gum from his mouth into the stands while returning to the bench. He likely was just throwing it anywhere, but it ended up in the stands, and he is fined $15,000 and not suspended. (The NBA called the gum "an object" in their official ruling.)

    Dec. 18, 2010: Andre Miller throws the ball into the stands at the end of a game. I can't find video of the incident, but he is fined $25,000 and not suspended.

    Dec. 7, 2009: Joakim Noah throws the ball and hits a photographer. He is fined $15,000 and not suspended.

    Nov. 28, 2009: Matt Barnes -- remember him? -- throws the ball into the stands after a game. Again, I can't find video -- we're getting back kinda far! -- but he is fined $20,000 and not suspended.

    Feb. 27, 2008: Rasheed Wallace slaps at a towel in anger as a ballboy hands it to him, and it flies into the stands. He is ejected, and then throws another towel in anger onto the floor. He gets fined $25,000 and not suspended.

    April 23, 2007: Kirk Hinrich throws his mouthpiece into the stands during a playoff game. He is fined $25,000 and not suspended.
     
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  2. BigM

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    He shouldn't be suspended for that. Not in any situation, let alone a game 7.

    That said, it's continually disgusting how biased the media is for the Warriors. They are almost untouchable and after they win this thing on Sunday(hope not) it's going to be ****ing nasty. I don't necessarily hate anyone on their team more than usual opponents but the coverage they receive takes it to another level.
     
  3. celebrevida

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    Its already happened many times in the past including an incident involving Dwight. Its its not directed at a referee, they are pretty much never suspended even when it hits a fan, camera man, etc.

    So the answer is NO.
     
  4. pippendagimp

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    i get that jvg implied that refs were being instructed on how to call certain players (yao). but kerr is literally clapping and praising curry for pegging a fan in the face with his mouthpiece and saying it's the right thing to do directly because of the refs. wtf
     
  5. celebrevida

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    Kerr has to defend his players. What he is supposed to do say Curry needs to not do that and throw him under the bus?

    I think he meant that Curry was right to be frustrated as he was. But I doubt he meant that it is right to hit a fan in the face. But he could have answered the question better in hindsight while still defending his player. Saying Curry was right to be frustrated but being adding to Curry's apology for hitting the fan would have been better.
     
  6. thedreamsteam

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    Instead of fine or suspension, just tell him he can't dangle his mouthpiece like 2 year old for game 7.
     
  7. pippendagimp

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    "I'm happy he threw his mouthpiece."
    -- Steve Kerr
     
  8. celebrevida

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    “I’m happy he threw his mouthpiece,” Kerr said postgame . “He should be upset."

    I'm sure he didn't mean it to suggest "I'm happy he threw his mouthpiece and hit a fan".

    That being said his answer could have been better.
     
  9. jsingles

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    Except it wasn't a kid, and it didn't hit anyone's eye.
     
  10. pippendagimp

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    i don't have any problem with you being here, but just curious.....as a warriors fan, why join this forum now during the finals?
     
  11. B-Bob

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    Okay, but what if the mouthpiece had acted like a boomerang and then exploded in a giant slobbery fireball when it returned to Curry?
    Had you thought of that?
     
  12. celebrevida

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    I'm not a Warriors fan but I'm not a Warriors hater either. I came across this site while looking for good NBA finals discussions and am on other sites too. I joined as I figured appeared to be a premiere site for NBA discussion.

    I just try to be as fair and objective as possible. And unless proven otherwise I try to give all players on all teams some benefit of the doubt. I guess if my comments support or oppose a team they oppose or support instead it seems like I am on the side of that team. But in general I do that for all players and teams regardless.
     
  13. pippendagimp

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    ok i hadn't seen any rockets-related posts or anything not in GS favor, but in any case welcome to the board
     
  14. celebrevida

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    It looks like that only because most of the posters here are anti-Warriors and some of the comments seem way too un-objective and biased.

    Anyway, when people said Green should have been suspended in OKC for Adams kick, I agreed too. Others were suspended in similar situations. But I did think that the light groin swipe was no where near severe enough to warrant any kind of flagrant foul.

    OTOH when people say that Curry should be suspended, well the rules and precedents just don't support that. Even if you are anti-Warriors, once you have the facts, its fair to expect that even if you are anti-Warriors that the precedents overwhelmingly suggest Curry should NOT be suspended.
     
  15. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    If the standard is to not suspend, so be it. I think he should be suspended, but then again I thought Green's nut punch should have warranted one as well. Oh well.
     
  16. celebrevida

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    If the standard is not to suspend and you acknowledge that, then I don't see how it makes sense to then say he should be suspended. Even if you are the biggest Cavs fan or anti-Warriors fan, knowing it is unprecedented you would taint that Game 7 forever and all the critics would be right to point out that Curry was being treated unfairly.

    Saying he should be suspended after being pointed out that the standard is not to suspend is tantamount to saying I want to league to rig Game 7 for the Cavs in the most blatant way possible.

    At best you can say there should be a rule change so that it becomes suspendable in future seasons if you want.
     
  17. Tonaaayyyy

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    Wrong.

    Ron Artest threw his own body into the stands, with his fist hitting a fan. Suspended for the rest of the year.

    Kidding. I guess the league was being consistent there.
     
  18. Invisible Fan

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    Welcome to the boards. We carry some salt because our growth is taking longer than we expected.
     
  19. icecreamman

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    I hate curry a lot and I mean a lot. But he played well. And by well I mean he was hitting his 3's.

    But he should be suspended. It was intentional and he tried to play if off as it was an accident. Why would you aim at a fan and throw it as hard as you can. He could have easily threw it on the floor and that would be that. But no he hit the fan in the shoulder directly. His apology was fake and it was blatantly obvious. The special treatment curry gets is pathetic. And to top it all off his pathetic sloot of a wife mouths of calling the nba rigged against the warriors. lmao okay and how did your husband win back to back mvp? how did the warriors win 73 wins? how are the warriors allowed to get away with illegal screens and other teams can't get away with it.
     
  20. napalm06

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    Yes, yes, but the only person on this list who I hate is Matt Barnes. Surely the NBA factors how much I dislike a person into their decision?
     

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