Florida Night Club Shooting - at least 20 dead - impact on US elections?

Well...I think the impact on the US election is becoming more clear....Trump is showing himself to be the unrestrained lunatic we originally thought him to be. Any rationalization that it was all show, and he'd act more presidential once the time was right has been rebuffed.

 

Since when has that hurt him in the past though? Don't overestimate the intelligence of a Trump voter.

 

What am I talking about?

What is the point of you stating that he possibly does not know the difference between ISIS, al-Qaeda and Hezbollah?

Do you doubt that he was a believer in radical Islam?

Do you doubt that he was at least in part motivated by other terrorist attacks and groups that are radical Islamic?

 

I completely agree, these same people will be the fiercest critics of radical Islam, and also the best educated people in that region of the world. The United States should want people like those described in the USA.

 

No I wouldn't cast him as an extremist... why? Because your "friend" wouldn't be emptying hundreds of rounds into a crowd of innocent people or plotting terrorist attacks in Disney World.

My point was to counteract this idea that the shooter wasn't particularly religious. He was religious, he made several recent pilgrimages to Saudi Arabia, he regularly attended Mosque and other friends described him as religious......

 

But...they look Muslim

 

i mean exactly as i said. i'll go by whatever the fbi investigation produces and ignore your unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. facts please and not obtuse, square peg/round hole bs.

you posted this...

there's extreme churches everywhere with leadership that presidential candidates associate with.

he went to a mosque? let's go get hakeem!

very religious? ooooohh! wow. down with very religious people everywhere! friends said he was religious? his family and ex-wife that were a helluva lot closer to him than you would probably know better.

mathloom debunked your saudia arabia theory.

that whole post is laughable at best.

to answer your last post that was directed at me...

i believe that he grabbed every ideology that targeted gays and evidence has shown that. the fbi spokesperson just said this was a hate crime and terrorism. the latter of which can mean a multitude of things. until someone leasing the investigation days otherwise, i'll deal with facts. not whatever jargon your presidential candidates are using for scare tactics or any non-fitting, square peg/round hole gibberish that you use.

hate crime and terrorism are the words that those leading the investigation have stated. potential was the word used for everything else.

 

According to the FBI director....he says that he is "highly confident that this killer was radicalized"

The guy was a radical Muslim terrorist, deal with it.

 

His motive was clear. It was politically driven as he clearly stated over and over to stop bombing his country. He was also gay and couldn't deal with his gayness. You really are wrong a lot of times. Deal with it.

 

nice fact. lol.

stopped short of calling it exactly those things. why? didn't hesitate to call it a hate crime though and terrorism (which is a very vague term btw).

ongoing investigation that need more facts. not fear mongering.

tired of dealing with it. thx.

 

It's also worth mentioning that he told some people in the bathroom that he was not there to kill black people (although a few black people did die). He said "you all have suffered enough." This was politically and hate driven.

 

Of course his motive was clear, he was a radicalized Muslim who belied that homosexuals were to be killed....just like was taught at his mosque by a guest speaker about a month ago.

On top of that, he might have been a closet homosexual himself, but that's neither proven or relevant because there is no causal relationship established between closet homosexuality and terrorism the way there is between radical interpretations of Islam and terrorism.

 

Can you substantiate that he was taught at his mosque that homosexuals were to be killed? Or is that just another thing you are making up?

 

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In a contrast to Tel Aviv, when Jerusalem has its pride parade, the police protection outnumber the participants, someone usually gets stabbed, and it's one of the few moments when the representatives of the Abrahamic faiths in the city all come together in agreement on something.

 

I checked again, the place where the shooter regularly went wasn't the same as the mosque that had the radical speaker, in fact the shooter's mosque wasn't even in Orlando, it was like 100 miles away. It's possible that there wasn't a connection there.

 

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Video of him working security during BP Oil spill. The look on his face is disturbing to say the least.

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