42 people in Chicago shot over the weekend - Impact on US elections

Actually it probably does, just not in a way anyone would admit. It's certainly affected other nationwide movements and patterns over the last 40 years.

 

No it wouldn't. You'd still have horrific terrorist attacks done by other means - e.g., Boston marathon, 9/11, etc.

 

It would be elastic, but only because illicit sales and sub-federal legal exemptions or lack of enforcement would maintain the supply level.

 

Drug is already expensive to purchase and illegal to own. But we still have a drug problem. Drug overdose kills 25,000 Americans per years vs 30,000 death of gun violation. Wherever there is a profit, someone will always try to supply.

BTW, IMO, Chicago has a high crime problem, not gun problem. I am sure those gangster and criminals are smart enough to use a knife to stab people if guns are taken away

 

How come we don't see threads every other day on here? Damn Islamists in Chicago!!

 

9mm ammo has increased in price 5x over the last 10 years and the sales have increased greatly.

If we are going to start taxing lets tax fat asses. Generate revenue for their incredible health care costs.

I propose 100 a year for every point over 30 BMI.

 

You would be free to start them.

I think one of the reasons is that many of the victims of these shootings are gang members or people who live close to gang members, so those who don't live there do not feel personally affected very much, whereas a shooting like the one in Orlando or the Boston Marathon bombings could have affected a lot of people who were just minding their own business and in no way close to any gang violence.

 

The argument "The problem can't be fixed 100% so why bother?" is rather shallow. I see no solutions coming from the NRA except to buy yet more guns (and line the pockets of manufacturers).

My solutions.
1. Keep national gun/crime statistics (rather than rely on state-by-state stats) so we can have a holistic and trusted perspective
2. Get rid of the trade show loop hole
3. Renew the 1994 law outlawing assault weapons
4. Sync up the no-fly list with the no-buy list for gun background checks
5. Expand the 3-day background check to 2 weeks
6. Institute a national voluntary gun buy back program. Offer a tax rebate on each gun returned (or simply offer cash)
7. Offer additional funding to agencies to enhance visibility, collaborate and otherwise follow-up on known threats.

Hopefully common sense prevails.

Banning Muslims and arming every citizen (including Muslims) doesn't fix anything.

 

The new term is universal background checks. That's universal background checks.

 

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People who have nothing to lose commit crimes. Look at the South Side of Chicago -- it's filled with low income, uneducated, fatherless youth. It's a haven for crime. Gun laws won't change that. Look at my street in my beautiful, tree-lined neighborhood, filled with houses with finely manicured lawns (including my own). Every single one of us have guns that would rival a Delta Force operator's standard issue. Zero crime.

The solution to Chicago? Education, family structures, and JOBS. It's not more regulations that have already proven themselves to be ineffective, and only penalize the law-abiding citizens.

But Democrats are not looking for solutions, they are looking for wedge issues that distract away from their complete failures in urban areas and in foreign policies. Gun control is a great distraction for them, because it's an emotional issue, and their voters are emotional, not logical.

GOOD DAY

 

Nobody in south side of Chicago needs jobs - they need their guns taken away. Then magically all violence and poverty will stop.

 

Let's try that. I'm betting drive by knifings will not be very common.

 

http://www.theonion.com/video/gunman-kills-15-potential-voters-in-crucial-swing--14274

From 2008!

 

Preventing people from exercising their rights and outright stripping rights of people while burdening them with excessive taxes is absolutely the liberal way. If there's any right that can be stripped, or any tax that can be levied, they're on it. Anything to make the people weaker and the federal government stronger.

The funny part is that they'll always do that while claiming that they are just looking out for their best interest and there will always be suckers that buy that BS.

 

Bill O'Reily even calls for gun control.

If you want to lower gun violence - I agree with a lot of what he has to say. Yes congress needs to ban certain guns and ammo - the gov't is within their constitutional rights to do that.

And yes, you need stiff penalties for anyone having a gun illegally or using it illegally at the federal level. There should be a mandatory minimum sentence for possessing a gun illegally and for using a gun for committing a crime.



And any rational entity understands that the numbers of guns is correlated with gun deaths.

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Said differently- who cares if it happens to "them", but if it could happen to us! Then it matters! People are self centered.

Occasionally when I drive home from work, I hop off the highway to avoid traffic. I drive through some of these neighborhoods and it makes me ill. People are born into horrific situations that expose them to daily violence. Rather than helping them overcome it, we go back to our homes with our manicured lawns and complain about our property taxes. (FWIW, I'm talking about the west side of Chicago)