Thats a hypothesis that may or may not come true. What exactly is that I don't give him credit for? I said that it's ridiculous for anyone unless they are delusional like Bobby is, to say that Capela is better player than Adams and even more so than Ibaka. Also dont' forget that Capela wasn't that unknown as you believe. He was in the top french sports academy Itep I think it's called where almost every good french player has come from. Sure it takes centers a few years to grasp things, and that's why I don't say that Capela won't ever do anything or write him off. But to say that Capela is better than Adams and Ibaka is outright ridiculous. Look : I quoted it again to illustrate the craziness of that poster.
There's one stat that says Ibaka is better than Capela, it's pretty dumb that I'm even addressing this. Ibaka career 35% 3 point shooter. It's going to take Capela a very long time to get there from his current shot, if ever.
I don't think it's crazy at all. Of the 3, Clint Capela has the: Highest Rebounding %, offensively and defensively. Highest Block % Highest Steal % Lowest TO% Highest FG% He also runs the floor better than either of them, and has shown better lateral quickness in guarding smaller players on the perimeter when he has had to.
there's seriously people here trying to make a claim that today's Capella is apparently better than Adams, let alone Ibaka lol. Ladies and gentleman we have reached another level of homerism. Those glasses are no joke apparently
So with that said you're choosing Capella over both Adams/Ibaka today if you were given those 3 choices? If so, congrats you would officially become one of worst GMs of all time. How hard is it for posters to actually let a player develop and establish some real credibility before you try an parade some attributes that have such a long ways to go. Looks like a classic case here.
LOL coming from one of Terrence Jones' biggest supporters.... I get that some people are still caught up in the hype, but Adams and Ibaka aren't great role players. Neither provide any real offense and Ibaka isn't even a very good defender, he just blocks a lot of shots. It's yet another case of flash over substance....you know, just like your boy Terrence Jones. As to between Adams and Capela, it's like a choice between Chuck Hayes or DeAndre Jordan. I'd take DeAndre Jordan.
The case is right in front of you if you actually watch all 3 of these guys play. Only a delusional homer would think Capela right now is better than both Adams & Ibaka
Durant to the Rockets is extremely unlikely, but "sources" don't really matter, considering "sources" said Dwight was still considering going back to the Lakers the day he signed with the Rockets.
You're 3 for 3 in posts calling me a homer but have not refuted in any way that Capela is the better: 1. Rebounder (offensively and defensively) 2. Defender (steals, blocks, and ability to switch on to quicker perimeter players) 3. Offensive player efficiency (less turnovers, high FG%) I guess you concede that Capela is better at all those things, but in some random overall gut way, you believe Adams and Ibaka are superior. And I feel pretty confident in that difference of opinion.
Inside sources are often contradictory or just flat out wrong. Even Woj thought Lebron was staying in Cleveland the first time. Stein thought we were out of the running for Dwight and wouldn't you know it he's under contract with us. Durant may not be coming here, but I wouldn't take it on Stein's word. He's a hack.
try talking when Capella can play a full season as an established starter, or when he can shoot higher than 37% from the FT line, or make a basket outside of a alley dunk, doesn't foul at a rate that keeps him off the floor more times than not, establishes some self taught offensive move, can make a jumpshot, play more than 20 mins over the course of a full season, doesn't get lost on the floor at times because hes still very much raw, average more than 5 minutes in a playoff game. I've left plenty off this list. I would hope you would get the whole point of this and see the bigger picture.
Not surprising after so many bad decisions over coaches and major players for last several years. Les has no patience whatsoever and involved way too much in basketball decisions. A lot coaches and players left Rockets on bad terms. I don't see how Rockets become a top destination for top FAs again without a culture change.
Personally the only issue I have with Capela right now is his horrible ft shooting, below 50% ain't gonna get it done. That's the only questionable thing I have about his body of work, if he could raise it up to 50% I think he's better than either Adams or Ibaka. Capela's only 22 years old, at his age he's younger than some rookies but he can already be a starter in some NBA teams. Talking about his performance NOW is just silly because as a young player with a ton of athletecism, he is just scratching the surface of his potential and will be obviously become dramatically better in a couple of years. Of course some posters want to make the "let him show it first" argument, but using just common logic unless something goes tragically wrong Capela will become a really good player. Its like in Blake Griffin's real rookie year (after he blew out his knee) somebody made a thread of "Should the Rox trade (broken down) Yao Ming for BG?" and some people actually said no to the hypothetical scenario because BG hasn't played in the NBA yet. Then BG played his first game and then it was obvious who was the better player. You don't always need to see it first to know how things would turn out.
The last time the Rockets played the Thunder, who had which stat line? 8 points, 8 rebounds, 1 block 9 points, 6 rebounds, 4 blocks 6 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks after that which player played 23 minutes, which played 31 minutes, and which played 30 minutes.
no idea why you would consider it silly. You're making a huge assumption at this point. Apparently its that easy just to take dramatic steps upwards. You know how many guys the league goes through that shows potential for a given amount of time but ends up being out of the league just as fast. Leagues all around the world are filled with guys that have potential. Andrew Wiggins is only 21. Is he already better than our top NBA wing players since he will obviously become dramatically better in a couple of years and is just scratching the surface of his potential using that same logic. You say its common logic when really it's not. Beasley was a 20 pt scorer at one point and wound up out of NBA the next.
Dwight's numbers were actually worse, he had 4 points, 8 rebounds and no blocks and played only 20 minutes due to picking up 5 fouls in that time.
YOLO, you're a good poster and I certainly agree, at the moment, you take Adams or Ibaka over Capela. But I also think you are going way too much on gut and playoff performance than an objective look. It is closer than you make out, especially with Adams. Adams had a bit of a "break out" performance in the playoffs. Which is commendable and should be noted, especially compared to Clint's horrible playoffs, relatively speaking. But I'm also not going to go overboard and assume playoff Adams is going to be there forever. Just as I think the people that see OKC as a clear mid 60s win team next year are similarly overlooking the fact that OKC put together a 2 week string where it all worked and clicked, but then reverted back to form. And form, for them, has the longer history. If we look at regular season, again it is MUCH closer than you make out. And given Adams is 1 year older, 1 year more experienced, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, 3 years with a better coaching staff in place, it makes sense that he is better. But if someone wants to tell me they'd rather roll with Capela for the next 3 years, under Mike D... well, I can definitely understand that. I still might not agree with it, but I understand it and concede it may turn out to be that Capela is actually better over the next 3 years. Or it may not.
Ohh I like these games. Okay so I don't think Adams is a big shot blocker, so ill peg him for the first one. I think Serge is the best scorer of the bunch. Ill put him second. That leaves Capela 3rd. Adams Ibaka Capela Minutes distro, obvi Capela gets the lowest amount at 23. Its really a wash for the other two though. I'll say Serge got 31 minutes Adams got 30. How'd I do coach?
