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New York Times: Hillary Clinton illegally used private email for all State Dept. business

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  1. Amiga

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    She didn't turn over a bunch of emails saying they were personal. Perhaps her judgement was just fine.
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    So wait. There's no criminal liability on Hillary's part vis-a-vis this whole email thing?

    If so, go Hilldog!
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    LOL, who is "bemoaning" the list of imagined scandals... I am rolling my eyes as the right wing desperately tries to come up with something... anything to bring her down.

    But no, I don't worry about her judgement, but rather her age. Hopefully she chooses a youthful VP (perhaps Julian Castro, Sherrod Brown, Mark Warner, or Martin Heinrich). Also help develop the bench for 2024... and hey, with Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Castro, Warner, Brown, and Heinrich, the future looks pretty good too.
     
  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    [Educational Post]
    Since the Republicans took the House in 2010, Obama hasn't passed one single meaningful piece of legislation. He simply doesn't have the skills to govern and reach across the aisle to get things done. He's a campaign guy only -- he's great at reading other people's words from a teleprompter but simply cannot govern. But this should come as no surprise -- nothing in his background would have suggested that he's a leader.

    Afterwards, the Dems lost the Senate, a majority of state legislatures, and a majority of state governor positions. The only "progress" that Barry has made is through regulations and executive orders, all of which can quickly be overturned by President Trump.


    GOOD DAY
     
  5. Granville

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    That's just one thing she did. Care to comment on the rest?
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    Educational post:

    You probably didn't know this, but the role of the President isn't to pass legislation; Congress has the responsibility to introduce and pass legislation. The President then can either approve or reject legislation.

    But thanks for the opportunity to provide a list of Obama's accomplishments:

    Domestic accomplishments of President Obama:
    Signed economic stimulus legislation like the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (the Stimulus) and the Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010 into law in response to the Great Recession of 2008
    Signed the Dodd–-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act in 2010, strengthening financial regulations to an extent not seen since the Great Depression
    Pushed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) overhauling the nation's health insurance system through Congress in 2010
    Signed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 and became the first sitting U.S. president to publicly support same-sex marriage
    Repealed a Bush-era policy preventing federal tax dollars from being used to fund research on new lines of embryonic stem cells
    Signed the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 ending the role of private banks in lending out federally insured student loans

    Foreign policy accomplishments of President Obama:
    Ended US military involvement in the Iraq War and increased US troop levels in Afghanistan
    Substantially increased the number of drone strikes targeting suspected terrorists around the world
    Ordered U.S. military involvement in Libya following a popular revolt against Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi
    Authorized the military operation that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden in 2011
    Signed the New START arms control treaty with Russia reducing the number of long-range weapons held by both countries

    source: http://us-presidents.insidegov.com/q/2/9699/What-were-President-Barack-Obama-s-accomplishments

    If you have time and interest to further educating yourself, here is a list of 358 Obama accomplishments assembled by an admittedly biased source, but they claim they have linked citations to support their list, so knock yourself out.

    http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/

    btw, his current current approval rating is higher than Ronald Reagan's at the same point in their presidencies (an extra fact for your education).
     
  7. Granville

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    You are whining, bemoaning, making excuses (take your pick) because the Clintons put themselves in a a bad light. Whether that be Bill screwing everything that walks and commits perjury or Hillary at the very least breaking rules designed to protect the nations security and then lying about it. Lucky for them they have a bunch of gullible fools who believe their stupid excuses.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    HO HO HO

    What a horrible list of accomplishments. Seriously, the foreign policy "accomplishments" are pretty much all disasters. The domestic policy "accomplishments" are also pretty much all disasters, especially Obamacare. Obama seemed like a good idea at the time for many poorly educated voters and others who helped right the mental wrong they felt for being internally racist, but he has proven beyond all doubt that he simply cannot govern. It's a shame, given how good he is at reading other people's speeches off of teleprompters.


    NO ACCOMPLISHMENTS
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    TJ needs to get dat rep bar up.
     
  10. El_Conquistador

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    DonnyMoist, good to hear from you old friend. My rep has been on a pathway to glory recently, with the most repped post being linked to my outstanding contribution to the Gorilla thread. Keep in mind, friend that most of my posts came before the rep system even existed. That's how OG The_Conquistador is. I have posted very little since the rep system was implemented. However, by bombarding the forum with premium posts and educational content, my rep will soon soar like eagles. The fun is just beginning this election season, friend
     
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    That's like vague platitude after vague platitude with no explicit examples.
     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    Is 10000/2 = 0?
     
  13. B-Bob

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    It's really good to have T_J back for the stretch run here.

    T_J, who ya got in November? [educational post me up, brah]
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    TJ was Stephen Colbert before Steven Colbert was Stephen Colbert.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    [Educational Post]
    SIZZLE CHEST,
    A fine morning to you, good sir. The_Conquistador is carefully considering his voting options. If pressed, today, I would vote for Donald J Trump, a great industrialist and man of distinction. I am not convinced fully that he will be the nominee, however, so I do qualify my vote for that possibility. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone as ethically challenged as Hillary Clinton. She represents all that is wrong with politics, and she is deeply dishonest and corrupt. Furthermore, I do not believe she is the leader that this great nation needs right now. I believe that in the next 1-2 years we will see a dramatic recession as the last 8 years of monetary stimulus by the Federal Reserve begins to show diminishing returns and we are left with no way to grow the economy other than tax and regulatory reform. Hillary Clinton will provide nothing in the way of growth-oriented policies on either of these two fronts -- quite the opposite, as has been the case over the last 8 years. Trump understands what makes businesses thrive and can put forward positions that can take the boot off of the throat of American businesses.

    Clinton has also proven herself to be a poor decision maker on foreign policy matters. She is experienced in these matters, but that experience has not translated into good decision making -- whether that's on Iraq, Syria, Libya, Iran, Russia or elsewhere. Trump wants a strong military but wants to use it sparingly. Clinton represents an interventionist foreign policy. Trump's business experience leads me to believe he understands the real world economy far better than Clinton and his independence will allow him to stand up to the vested interests, in a way that Clinton can't -- unions, Wall Street, military-industrial complex, foreign governments.

    Trump was not my first choice in the primaries, but his stated policy positions align far better with my belief for what is best for our fine nation.


    GOOD DAY
     
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  16. Granville

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  17. Dubious

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    So exactly what Landmark legislation has the party that has a powerful majority in House and the Senate passed? Really what significant issue have they even focused on?

    The fact is, obstruction is the point for the people that own the GOP and they are fine that obstruction works both ways, it keeps their idiot wing from actually doing harm.
     
  18. Amiga

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    There is a reason why GOP Congress reached an all time low of nearly 95% disapproval. They offered nothing of value. Worse, they offered doom and gloom and almost did the US in with their extremist tactics. And after 8 years, the fruit of their labor? TRUMP!
     
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    Having T_J back every presidential cycle really is a breath of familiar air in the D&D. He's like our Olympics.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    A great big blustery waste of time and money that everybody forgets in 5 seconds?
     

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