1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Baylor Bears Football Thread

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Brandyon, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    Don't get defensive and don't be naive either. UH better backup the Brinks truck because Baylor and possibly A&M are gonna come knocking.

    I'm on record saying that UH would be welcomed in the big 12 if it was up to me.

    Lol at you thinking that nobody wants to get paid top 5 money. Money always talks. Always.
     
  2. HTOWNTAKEOVER

    HTOWNTAKEOVER Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2016
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    15
    Baylor and A&M can knock all they want. only texas school im worried about is Texas.

    Enjoy being back on Kansas and Iowa St. level again. :grin:
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 1999
    Messages:
    37,264
    Likes Received:
    13,730
    I thought Sammy's Gruden pipedreams were ridiculous, but UH Fan thinking Herman is going to stay there, now that's WILD.
     
  4. HTOWNTAKEOVER

    HTOWNTAKEOVER Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2016
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    15
    He has a better shot at staying than going to Baylor. If we eventually go to a big conference he definitely staying. He about to build a legacy at Houston.
     
  5. dc rock

    dc rock Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2001
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    13,385
    Herman would leave for a handful of schools, but Baylor isn't one of them. Doubt this horrific story has somehow changed his mind. No top-level coach is going to jump into this building while it's still on fire. Probably going to take a couple of coaches to rehabilitate the image of the program.
     
  6. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    That's how I know you don't know about CFB. Baylor has a nice stadium, 50M athletics facility (indoor practice field, gym, offices), fertile recruiting ground in Texas. We will be back.

    Don't make this about Herman. There are more viable options than Herman. Chad Morris being one of them.
     
  7. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    48,943
    Likes Received:
    19,843
    I've heard Herman, and high ranking UH officials, speak about why he likes Houston and what it would take for him to leave.

    When UT, USC, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Florida, Alabama, etc. come open, I will be pooping my pants.

    Until then, not so much.
     
  8. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    It depends on a number of things. UH getting into a P5 or the playoff being expanded to 8 being a couple of the major factors.

    Money will be an issue too. You don't turn down 5 MM a year for 3 season after season. It just doesn't make sense. Herman didn't leave because that's a bad look after one season. The jobs you mentioned are for sure better but perhaps he wants to stay in Texas. We will see in 6 months.
     
  9. HTOWNTAKEOVER

    HTOWNTAKEOVER Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2016
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    15
    and what was Baylor before Briles came along?

    Add in the bad reputation about Baylor right now, no big time elite HC is going to come into this situation.

    That's how I know YOU don't know CFB.
     
  10. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    Who gives a **** about before. The facilities are night and day and we have deep pockets. Jarrett Stidham is a STUD and we have other pieces in place. "You gon learn."

    Of course, let's see how things go. No major sanctions, further embarrassment are not accounted for at the moment.
     
  11. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2002
    Messages:
    26,717
    Likes Received:
    14,997
    Good luck. They have a ton of things working against them.
     
  12. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2003
    Messages:
    48,943
    Likes Received:
    19,843
    P5 stuff matters because of revenue, but in Herman's eyes, he sees the road to yearly success as being much better at UH than say a middle-of-the-road P5 program.

    I don't think playoff access really matters all that much to him, honestly. If it comes, it comes. You win at UH and you still get to play in big games against big teams.

    Money for his salary? No. Money for everything else (assistants and facilities)? Yes.
     
  13. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    Winning cures all. 2016 season can't start fast enough. We are going to surprise people.
     
  14. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 1999
    Messages:
    37,264
    Likes Received:
    13,730
    What's the opposite of cures? That's what rape does.
     
  15. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    Perhaps there is more fallout and then yes it may be awfully difficult to attract anyone worth a damn even when we can offer bank.

    Babers or Montgomery are options but I think we're steering away from the Briles tree.
     
  16. HTOWNTAKEOVER

    HTOWNTAKEOVER Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2016
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    15
    well considering you about to lose a handful of ships, your recruiting classes about to be terribad. maybe you win 7 games this season but after that you about to be pre briles bad again. :grin:
     
  17. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,428
    Likes Received:
    945
    This morning, Baylor University interim president David Garland released the statement below. TLDR: Pepper Hamilton did not write out their findings in a written report so there is no report to release. They won't release details out of respect and privacy to the victims. Overall, It's hard to believe that the regents wouldn't have released more details about the investigation if it would have made the program look better.
    I'm guessing media will just run out of steam in covering the story if Baylor keeps everything else under wraps but it might kick back up once the season starts.


    Ticked off opinion piece from that highlights particularly controversial part of the statement. Deadspin: http://deadspin.com/baylor-wont-release-full-report-on-sexual-assault-scand-1780751325


    Rumors are going to continue indefinitely unless the board makes the incidents of the the investigation public and identifies the culpable personnel at Baylor and what they did. Give, some board members have been briefed a combined 30 hours in Waco and at the firm's HQ, I think it's reasonable to conclude there is no "written report" out of fear that a single .pdf could be leaked and all hell can break loose.
     
    #1157 Brando2101, Jun 6, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2016
  18. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,428
    Likes Received:
    945
    Breaking: Baylor JUCO transfers Faulk, Autry suspended

    http://baylor.247sports.com/Bolt/Breaking-Baylor-JUCO-transfers-Faulk-Autry-suspended-45680195

    Hope this is unrelated to the current issues. It might be a positive thing for the school if it's a more casual offense. Then it'll look like the new coach is developing a no-nonsense approach to everything.
     
    #1158 Brando2101, Jun 7, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2016
  19. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2005
    Messages:
    6,428
    Likes Received:
    945
    Joe Schad (ESPN Reporter) says former Baylor student tells him she was had text conversations with current assistant Jeff Lebby about the details about her sexual assault by former football player Devin Chafin.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Former Baylor student Dolores Lozano says Devin Chafin assaulted her, Art Briles and Jeff Lebby knew <a href="https://t.co/Bm8XsM3xUh">https://t.co/Bm8XsM3xUh</a></p>&mdash; Joe Schad (@schadjoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/schadjoe/status/740259334215589890">June 7, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


    Photos:
    [​IMG]

    Come on...If this is legit and was reported to the BOR then it should put further pressure on the BOR to disclose what they were briefed on. However, I do think the national media will move on soon. They're just going to wait it out the best they can.
     
    #1159 Brando2101, Jun 7, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2016
  20. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    This isn't surprising. The rest of the staff will be let go after the season.

    Also, I think Chafin's case was domestic assault and not sexual assault. This is why Briles is gone. Chafin wasn't even needed when you have Linwood Jefferson and T Will. I don't know what Briles was thinking (apparently not thinking at all).
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now