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Texans sign Brock Osweiler

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Mar 9, 2016.

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Do you like the Brock Osweiler signing?

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  2. NO

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  3. I abstain, courteously

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  1. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;If there was no OTA today, I would've gone to the White House,&quot; Brock Osweiler says. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a></p>&mdash; Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/739894129006682113">June 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  2. kevC

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  4. houstonstime

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    Boz might end up failing us or not living up to our pay, but you cannot fault his work ethic and desire to lead this team. I love the attitude, just like I loved Charles James's. And sometimes, that can cause people to outplay their abilities. I'm excited.
     
  5. jakedasnake

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    While yes, he is saying and doing all the right things. Showing them on the field is what counts. Will he stand in there a split second longer for Fuller to get open knowing he is going to get jacked? Will he be able to play at a high level through aches and pains? I don't want him in harm's way all the time but he will need to prove that he is truly about winning and doing what is necessary to make that happen.

    I want a bulldog as my QB but I don't think that is Brock's personality. Hopefully he has the mental and physical toughness to grind out a long season. That is what will really earn his teammates respect.
     
  6. houstonstime

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    Someone posted here the top 5 and bottom 5 QBs against the blitz. While it was a small sample size, he was 4th or 5th.

    Also, I believe I heard or read somewhere that one thing BOB loved about Boz was his tendancy to sit in the pocket and take the hit if it meant getting the pass off. I think that is exactly his personality from what I have heard so far.
     
  7. Two Sandwiches

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    While you may not think so, the numbers and tape certainly show that he may be that type of guy.
     
  8. jakedasnake

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    Let's hope so. I also saw some media bias/stats that says he didn't do well against the blitz but that is expected in a slow forming Kubiak pass play with a suspect O-line. As usual stats can be bent to your own or a journalists bias in order to prove a point.

    Guys hear footsteps the more they get hit. Again, I am not saying that is Brock. Just that he needs to be smart tough guy like Flacco while taking hits and staying on the field.
     
  9. Hey Now!

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    Neither does Peyton Manning. Personality is meaningless - can he make the throws? That's all that matters.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    All that matters?!?!?!

    What about the "clutch gene"?
     
  11. jakedasnake

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    Can he make throws under pressure in a Texans uniform? That is what matters. I am not saying he can't. I am just eagerly awaiting the season to see what he is made of.

    Peyton Manning is definitely a bulldog. I am not talking physically but mentally. After a pick, will he wilt or will he study what he did wrong and double down and focus more on the next throw without losing confidence.
     
  12. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Interestingly enough the article houstonstime referred to included Osweiler in the top 5 against the blitz last year (albeit a smaller sample size) and Flacco in the bottom 5.

    From the article:

    His numbers against the blitz were far better than Peyton Manning’s last season. Osweiler led the NFL in yards per attempt (9.83) and passer rating (114.6) against pressure looks. Manning was 24th and 26th, respectively, in those categories. Osweiler has just seven career starts, so it’s a small sample size, but his success against pressure is an encouraging sign for Houston Texans fans.

    It seems to have flown under the radar, but Flacco and the Ravens’ offense have struggled against the blitz. His QBR of 37.0 ranked 30th last season. Since 2013, Flacco has been one of the more mistake-prone QBs against the blitz, with the second-highest interception rate (3.4 percent) in the NFL.
     
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    Never said Flacco was good against the blitz although he has been decent in the past with pressure in his face. He is able to take a hit and get back up and play the next down/series.

    For every 1 ESPN article, there is 1 opposite view about Osweiler. Pro Football Focus had this blurb in the article below about how Brock was mediocre when the heat was applied. I actually think those numbers are decent if true but then again what defines "heat" in the Pro Football Focus article and what defines "pressure looks" in the ESPN article? Both articles seem like they just threw a bunch of stats together and came to a conclusion for their own reasons. These stats/articles are much more subjective than objective IMO.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-10-worst-moves-of-the-2016-offseason/

    In his 2015 starts, he recorded a passer rating of 95.9 when kept clean, completing 66.5 percent of his passes at 7.3 yards per attempt; when the heat was applied, those numbers fell to a passer rating of 66.9, a completion percentage of 52.2, and 6.9 yards per attempt. It is impossible to definitively declare that Osweiler will fail from the evidence we have of his play, but it is equally impossible to be sure of his success going forward—which a $72 million contract pretty much necessitates. Bill O’Brien and the Houston Texans are gambling huge on Osweiler, which would be easier to accept had they not been so adamant a year ago that their quarterback group was far better than people believed.
     
  14. eric.81

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    The hate on Brock is real...

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-no-issue-with-osweiler-going-to-white-house/

    Posted by Mike Florio on June 7, 2016, 1:28 PM EDT

    Some of those who have argued that Texans quarterback Brock Osweiler should have skipped voluntary workouts for a trip to the White House have pointed to the fact that the player’s new boss would have had no problem with Osweiler taking the day off.

    “It’s obviously a decision that he made,” Texans coach Bill O’Brien told reporters on Monday. “It’s a voluntary camp, so those decisions are up to the players. I didn’t really have a thought one way or the other. I just know that the approach that we take during this period of time when it’s voluntary is we are ready to coach the guys that are here, do you know what I mean? We don’t try to lose any sleep over somebody that won’t be here because it’s voluntary. That’s the way we approach it with any player.”

    Yes, that’s what O’Brien said — because that’s what he has to say. The rules prohibit coaches from saying or doing anything that suggests voluntary workouts are anything but optional. That includes not calling out players who skip, and not praising those who attend.

    So, officially, O’Brien wouldn’t have cared if Osweiler didn’t show. Unofficially, O’Brien privately may have wondered how many more millions in guaranteed money the Texans should have given to their new quarterback to ensure that he would be “all in” with his new team, new offense, and new surroundings.


    I mean seriously... WTF?
     
  15. eric.81

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    Here's more flat out speculation from Florio:

    “That’s what my answer was last week,” Osweiler said. “I stand by that answer. My answer hasn’t changed. I believe that every single practice, every single rep, every single meeting that I can get in this new offense is the most important thing for myself and my teammates right now. So yes, I stand by what I said last week.”

    His that’s-my-story-and-I’m-sticking-to-it explanations suggests that, at some level, Osweiler believes (correctly or not) that the decision to bench him late in the regular season was more about placating Peyton Manning, whose anger over not being put back in the lineup culminated in a one-fingered salute to coach Gary Kubiak during a filmed workout before Manning was put back on the field.


    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...et-his-decision-to-stay-in-houston-on-monday/

    I don't even find either of these blog posts to be all that critical of Brock... just really, really speculative regarding his motivation and commitment and completely lacking in actual fact. It just comes out of left field...
     
  16. Rockets FTW

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    The NFL Live crew also had tough words to say about Brock.

    "It's a one in a lifetime opportunity to be with those teammates and enjoy the moment..."

    They had a big issue with it. Honestly, this whole situation on "should" Brock have skipped it to join the Broncos at the White House is ridiculous. It's his decision and the Texans probably rallied around that call and he probably gained more respect from his Texans teammates.

    I'm not worried. Media will be on his jock-strap come January and/or doubt the guy. Typical banter against Houston.
     
  17. BigM

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    What a complete non story. I think he should have gone considering how rare the opportunity is, but it makes absolutely no difference as far as his Texans career is concerned.
     
  18. TheRealist137

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    Brock is probably a republican and hates Obama....
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    That's so stupid. Why would he have wanted to go? To be reminded of what the Broncos stole from him? He's much better off working to get it on a team that won't pull him for a lesser QB once he's done the heavy lifting to put them in that position.

    He could have been the starter on a team winning the super bowl but the Broncos stole that from him and it's something he can never have back, why the hell would he want to see them again?
     
  20. Two Sandwiches

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    Who cares.


    Waiting for the inevitable, "This is why Brock Osweiler hates America" story.
     

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