Are Wardell Stephen Curry II + Klay Alexander Thompson Best Back-court Ever?

Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars comes to mind

As per everything .. . . depends on your criteria

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Asked where Steph Curry & Klay Thompson would rank among the best all time backcourts:

"I mean, that SHOOTIN', tho? Yeah, I F**KS wit Steph & Klay, they ball hard." said Carroll Dawson, Rockets consultant and former general manager.​

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This. At their peak Dumars/IT were good defensively and offensively. I'm pretty sure they can defend splash brothers as well as anyone and score all over them on the other side.

Also Paxson/MJ is pretty great as well considering MJ is GOAT. You think Thompson and his skinny frame will stop MJ from dunking all over his ass?

Jkidd/Penny at his peak would probably be better than splash brothers as well, Penny at full health reminded everyone of MJ.

I think offensively and as a scorer Curry can match up with the best of them but Klay is just a really good player so he kinda' prevents them from being the best backcourts ever because all time greats like MJ or Dumars or Penny would chew him up and throw him out. I mean on his own how good really is Thompson? He's extremely valuable as a space shooter but just like Kyle Korver his value depends on other players being there as offensive threats as well, I don't think you can put him on a team with no other scorer and expect him to carry the offense.

 

STEVE AND CAT BABY!!!

 

thomas and dumars never had a season where they combined for as many win shares as just steph did this season or even last season. golden state's team defense probably ups curry's win shares a little more than warranted and win shares may not be perfect, but that's a huge difference.

part of it is that thomas's best years were largely before dumars was drafted to the team.

also, thomas's true shooting percentage is fairly horrible. while he has a reputation as this amazing scorer, he wasn't a huge volume scorer (partly because he was getting assists) and he wasn't a very efficient scorer either.

 

Why is Klay still underrated even after game 6 thunders and his 37pt qtr etc? Or when he beats Houston multiple times without Curry and bests our own J Haren? Klay doesn't want the spotlight and is not as consistent as Curry, but he is pretty consistent himself. He would be lauded as the best all-time shooter if not for Curry.

He doesn't act like a lead dog because he doesn't have to. But he had shown when the situation calls for it, he has it in him just as much as anyone. Not just thunders game 6, he showed up in game 5 too, just to see no one else on the dubs did. He has big-time ability. He is already way better than Reggie Miller imo.

Not everyone needs to be the ball handler to be great, there's only one ball as they say. Such an SG would let his PG be PG, which works perfectly for the dubs. IMO Klay's explosive ability could make him the best 2nd fiddle ever, which is backed up by a 73 win season already. He is himself a bigger threat as the 2nd guy than most 1st guys in the history of the game.

 

LMAO. I don't think so. They're both volume shooters who aren't very consistent. Splash brothers > Harden / Westbrook

 

I don't think that GS's team success will be enough to put Thompson in the Hall of Fame. That certainly helps but you also need the raw numbers/accomplishments.

Maybe if he ends up with 5 or 6 titles but otherwise I don't see it. If the team success had that much influence then Draymond Green would be there too as he's actually been GS's 2nd best player and the team leader these last 2 seasons.

 

Never ceases to amaze me how newly invented metrics always seem to favor modern players

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Good ole EYE BALL TEST

 

Seems legit.

 

According to someone in another thread, we have to consider Mo Williams and Anthony Parker.

 

Let's see if 1 of them can ever win a Finals MVP first.

 

What raw stats put Dumars in? Neither his basic stats nor his advanced stats look all that impressive in a historical context. Dumars seemed like a good defender (though Defensive Rating actually paints him as poor one) but hardly a historically remarkable one. I think Thompson also ticks the box of good defender but not remarkably good (and, to be fair, Defensive Rating also downgrades Thompson). Their win shares are hard to compare...Dumars' peak win share seasons were a little higher than Thompson's, but Thompson has only played his age 25 season and his win shares at 24 and 25 were significantly higher than Dumars' at the same age.

Dumars made six All-Star teams in his career. Thompson has two and is reasonably likely to at least match Dumars, IMO. Dumars made three All-NBA teams, Thompson has already made two.

IMO, in a world where Dumars is a Hall of Famer, I think Klay Thompson will have a decent argument too, if they win the title this year and especially if they go on to win more.

 

I liked Dumars as much as the next guy, but I'm having a really hard time understanding why so many here seem to think he was clearly better than Thompson. And Curry has already passed Isiah Thomas.

 

Nostalgia glasses, but Dumars was a thorough all-time great who could guard the other team's best wing player and he could score points in loads. I don't remember Dumars dominating offenses, like I've seen Klay have. He loses his mind out there, sometimes.

Some will say, "...well, Dumars could guard MJ and other great guards from that era." Yes, he could and very well, and MJ still got alot of his points, anyway. Because, he was MJ.

Could Klay do the same thing? Yes, Klay is a a really good defender in an era where individual defenders have more hand-cuffs on them. Could you imagine his athleticism and defensive prowess in a league where individual defenders are allowed more luxuries. Klay would be a near elite defender in the 80s, 90s, or 2000s.

 

Hate to say it but these guys are definitely at the top of the list.

 

I'm down with Magic +.

 

2 elite shooters in the same backcourt on a championship team. One plays great defense considering he is not very athletic while the other strikes fear in opponents heart and can hit easy jumpers from halfcourt if not guarded tightly. No other backcourt in history has been this good.

 

Harden plays in slow motion while westbrook is run and gunner. Both are ISO players. They cant touch this Curry Thompson backourt on offense and defense. Making harden run around screens all game to keep up with Klay will have him dead within 10 minutes

 

Stephen Curry MVP 2016.